I'd like to clarify that I don't think naming names is fruitful here.
My response is to your own story, and I will choose to respond to was
said between you and Cristina.

Thanks and lets all be impeccible.


On 20/06/16 20:36, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
> Thank you for sharing your words Psy,
>
> I would like to express solidarity for you and all of the people who
> have indeed been wrongfully accused or emotionally abused and harassed.
>
> It is not an easy fact for some people to accept but we must recognize
> that whatever systems we build to protect victims will be used by people,
> women, to get power over others. These people do what they do even
> knowing that their false accusations promote a culture of indifference
> toward the tragically large demographic who are in real physical danger.
>
> I myself was threatened with false rape accusation - and ironically the
> objective was to ruin my reputation within a community which I nolonger
> respect nor want to take part in. I count myself lucky because I choose
> to live a very transparent lifestyle so blackmail is not possible but
> my heart is with all those who have been cornered and trapped by
> blackmail, emotional abuse and false accusation.
>
> More about my experience is here:
> https://gist.github.com/cjdelisle/0f90a6f14e89d73a1aefc845f9ff270f
>
> As far as keeping a git repository of accounts, if I have 2 accounts
> other my own then I would be ok to create the repo. I have no objection
> to it other than pure lack of material.
>
> I don't know what is the right thing to do, I'm not sure anybody does.
> I just want a better world where everyone can feel safe and where
> people do not use secrets and lies to gain power over one another.
>
>
> Caleb
>
>
> On 20/06/16 18:32, psy wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> Right now I cannot introduce myself to talk in deep about this
>> interesting thread, just precisely because I'm currently a victim of a
>> false accusation and because of legal reasons is better than I don't
>> explain it publicly, yet.
>>
>> Cristina, is curious that I know that famous sec-community guy that you
>> mentioned on your email and have heard his version of the events with
>> you. I would like to hear yours so we can take a clearer position.
>>
>> Maybe also we can invite him to talk about it, here, of course, if you
>> want...
>>
>> Look, my particular case goes about a person who tries to take
>> advantages of my "fame" position on Community, using fear against me,
>> about publish my private life to that Community as an emotional
>> blackmail. And she did it, but now talking truth.
>>
>> Caleb, I would like to see a github here with cases of emotional
>> blackmail explaining when a person is famous and the other wants to be.
>>
>> Or cases of false allegations.
>>
>> Then there are those who want to wait for a court ruling. In Spain, the
>> law punishes gender man since the complaint is made. No matter when it
>> is done, as in my case, I was to 650kms of the person and take more than
>> 6 months without seeing her. Nothing account. The machinery of
>> repression unattended on that things and crushes anyone. Now I need to
>> probe (with tickets, conversations, etc..) all my movements during that
>> dates. Ridiculous.
>>
>> I think we should address the issue from several points. The community
>> and the collective emotions. The Inquisition we are making base on
>> strange moralistic points of view, etc...
>>
>> Also we should remember to that opportunists people who exploits these
>> issues to attack others under an envy hidden flag.
>>
>> or we can talk about a scientific point of view, explaining how hormonal
>> instability works because of gender.
>>
>> And an endless number of things.
>>
>> Look, I am a feminist until it becomes a totalitarian strategic. A
>> extremist method who kick me because of my genitals (testicles). Not
>> because of my ethics point of view. Or my facts. There, when I feel that
>> on a Community, I leave it fast. I don't want to be used sometimes to
>> expose gender equality, but tried in other to try to hurt my other
>> activists men like me. No way!
>>
>> I prefer to live my asexuality, alone, surrounded of animals, that
>> expose my intellectual work to the criterion of a Community that bases
>> all on "his word against yours."
>>
>> Especially because hackers have more important things to do than keep
>> mails to prove innocence. Think about it, we are really vulnerable to
>> this things.
>>
>> There are people who take advantage of our secrecy to abuse our
>> solidarity. There are people throwing you to the state machine so that
>> you are devoured by issues of heartbreak. Is easy to send hackers to a
>> flame and destroy them emotionally. One day, some of that hackers will
>> commit a suicide.. and this Community that is "died" has you said, will
>> need to pay a big prize for their free-easy allegations.
>>
>> I do not judge, yet. I don't know nothing about this concrete case of
>> Jack A, so I prefer to don't make a probably wrong opinion.
>>
>> But I know that I am with the victims. Whoever they are. No gender
>> distinction. And I will be ever with them.. But, I am not stupid. I know
>> that "victimhood" is another weapon to use when a relationships turns
>> toxic, so better to have more information before to take a position.
>>
>> For me, the hacker community is more alive than ever.
>>
>> ------
>>
>> PD: I bookmarked this thread for a more deep future contribution. Thanks
>> for your time to read that short introduction.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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