Thats true but don't discount the fact that this is a unique case. A famous
I still don't think you get what I'm saying. I believe all the accusations
something we should be cautious of. Don't act all shitty and dismissive.
> You read the whole thing? What I put in the mailing list is only the
> statement of motivation.
>
> I have thoughts about the govt conspiracy theories on this but I'm not
> going to share them.
> According to the CDC* 1 in 5 women have been raped, if we are worth
> anything as a community
> we need to commit to changing that number and navel-gazing about
> government plots and due
> process is not going to make that happen.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> * http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/SV-DataSheet-a.pdf
>
>
> On 17/06/16 21:55, jamileh s.t. wrote:
>
>> I read your post Caleb, I don't really see how what I said is
>> contradictory. It is totally possible that government does social
>> engineering to exacerbate situations(like in the leaks of gchq slides) and
>> that Jacobs people have also done this(opposing). That is all I meant to
>> convey.
>>
>> On 17 Jun 2016 8:47 p.m., "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@??? <mailto:
>> cjd@???>> wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking all of the different thoughts like you at the
>> beginning.
>> I spent 2 or 3 days compiling a repository of all of the
>> (non-anonymous) accusations I could find.
>> I'd appreciate if you could spend 5 minutes to read it, if you
>> maintain your opinion then I respect it.
>>
>> https://github.com/cjdelisle/JakeGate
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On 17/06/16 19:18, jamileh s.t. wrote:
>>
>> Whilst it's clear Jacob pushed boundaries/assaulted several women
>> does not also mean that government agencies have not also tried to further
>> smear him. On that website with the anon accounts several sounded
>> legit(Isis one) and several sounded hastily thrown together and the nick
>> farr account is kind of silly. I can also imagine agents within tor
>> spreading rumours which may be true but get people like nick fired up.
>> Anyhow obviously also forces on Jacobs side will do what they can to control
>> narrative and say they are exaggerated also.
>>
>> On 17 Jun 2016 6:11 p.m., "Bruno Gola" <brunogola@???
>> <mailto:brunogola@gmail.com> <mailto:brunogola@gmail.com <mailto:
>> brunogola@???>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Özer Tayiz <
>> otayiz@??? <mailto:otayiz@gmail.com> <mailto:otayiz@gmail.com
>> <mailto:otayiz@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> And while I don't know about the particulars of the
>> accusation or incident, as soon as I hear "a prominent hacker is accused of
>> sexual misconduct" I immediately assume false allegation. Nowadays
>> disagreeing a feminist online is considered a crime. The simplest "throw
>> mud at someone" tactic these days.
>>
>> sorry, but you are wrong.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Özer Tayiz <
>> otayiz@??? <mailto:otayiz@gmail.com> <mailto:otayiz@gmail.com
>> <mailto:otayiz@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Why don't you fuck off yourself?
>>
>> Here is a perfectly safe space for you:
>>
>>
>> http://static8.depositphotos.com/1343665/820/i/950/depositphotos_8205615-Mental-hospital-padded-room-from.jpg
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Caleb James
>> DeLisle <cjd@??? <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr> <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr <mailto:
>> cjd@???>>> wrote:
>>
>> fuck off
>>
>> On 17/06/16 19:00, Özer Tayiz wrote:
>>
>> Are you trying to concern troll hacker
>> community?
>>
>> What do you suggest? "see something, say
>> something" policies to rat out each other to authorities?
>>
>> *lol* go sell your crazy somewhere else.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6ctpr5znM4
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Cristina
>> [efecto99] <efecto99@??? <mailto:efecto99@riseup.net> <mailto:
>> efecto99@??? <mailto:efecto99@riseup.net>> <mailto:
>> efecto99@??? <mailto:efecto99@riseup.net> <mailto:
>> efecto99@??? <mailto:efecto99@riseup.net>>>> wrote:
>>
>> On 16/06/16 21:00, Tim Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I don't think one bad apple (no pun
>> intended) should spoil the entire bunch. The hacker/journalist/leak
>> community will still be a open, progessive, tolerant community even with a
>> few nasty people in it.
>>
>>
>> 1. "ONE" apple?
>>
>> 2. +: accomplices & abettors are
>> responsible for that, too
>>
>> 3. "The hacker/journalist/leak
>> community will still be a open, progressive, tolerant community":
>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>> Tell me another joke.
>>
>> You both, as a lot of people from "our
>> community", still need to wake up.
>>
>> I suspected that this email fron Caleb
>> would collect these kind of answers, but i didn't think they would be so
>> naive.
>>
>> Cristina (99)
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 16, 2016, Caleb
>> James DeLisle <<mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr> <mailto:
>> cjd@??? <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>>>cjd@??? <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>
>> <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>> <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr <mailto:
>> cjd@???> <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>>>> wrote:
>>
>> At the beginning of June 2016,
>> news broke that a prominent member of the Hacker/Journalist/Leak
>> Community had become the target
>> of multiple serious allegations of sexual misconduct. I was aware
>> of certain aspects of this
>> person and after reading the accounts, certain things *clicked* for me
>> which I had not seen or could
>> not perceive before. If this person had acted alone, lead a
>> double-life and secretly done
>> terrible things, I might never have cared to collect this information.
>> The most painful realization
>> was that these things could never have been done alone, at every step
>> of the way the Community *had*
>> to have protected him, covered up the stories and shushed the
>> victims. This event lead me to
>> the tragic realization that the Open, Tolerant and Progressive Hacker
>> Community of which I believed
>> myself a member - was no more than a figment of my imagination.
>> It is fair to say that in my
>> heart I believe the victims, but I have chosen to maintain this
>> repository with the highest
>> level of impartiality that I can, so I might sleep at night even if I am
>> proven to be wrong.
>>
>> https://github.com/cjdelisle/JakeGate
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