Jim Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Klaus Hartnegg <hartnegg@???> wrote:
> > All programmers please read this, and treat it as a list of things not to do.
> >
> > https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html
> >
> > Systemd manages to shoot itself in the foot, and in the elbow, and trigger a timebomb, all with one single bullet.
>
> Did anyone follow the "systemd blob" link(within the above
> mentioned link) and read any other points including -logind?
>
> This apparently prompted a bug[1] on Debian that turned into a
> somewhat long discussion within the bug messages. It appears
> that Debian wanted to turn on, as default, the clean-up feature on
> logout. If I read it correctly it would kill background processes
> when you log out. This would result in killing, among other
> things, a detached tmux process or a long running background
> processes that in the past would have remained running.

Prompted discussions in a few other places I frequent. It's really
funny to see the systemd supporters go "b-b-b-but you can just change
it", without grasping the concept that having it default to "kill all
the things" could very well have considerable cost in terms of "time
wasted".

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