On 06/07/2016 05:45 AM, Jim Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Klaus Hartnegg <hartnegg@???> wrote:
>> All programmers please read this, and treat it as a list of things not to do.
>>
>> https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html
>>
>> Systemd manages to shoot itself in the foot, and in the elbow, and trigger a timebomb, all with one single bullet.
> Did anyone follow the "systemd blob" link(within the above
> mentioned link) and read any other points including -logind?
>
> This apparently prompted a bug[1] on Debian that turned into a
> somewhat long discussion within the bug messages. It appears
> that Debian wanted to turn on, as default, the clean-up feature on
> logout. If I read it correctly it would kill background processes
> when you log out. This would result in killing, among other
> things, a detached tmux process or a long running background
> processes that in the past would have remained running.
>
> So maybe the average user won't be concerned. :(
>
> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394
>
>

Yes, that "clean-up" feature was mentioned and discussed and pretty
vomited on - for obvious reasons. Which is why, and I repeat myself, I
am so thankful for everyone here. Not everyone drank the coolaid!