:: Re: [DNG] sudo or su?
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Lähettäjä: Sadegh Sadegh
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Vastaanottaja: Paweł Cholewiński, dng@lists.dyne.org
Aihe: Re: [DNG] sudo or su?
Hi,
I am very sory, I can't.

22.05.2016, 22:28, "Paweł Cholewiński" <pawelcholewinski@???>:
> Hi, could You send screenshot?
>
> W dniu 22.05.2016 o 21:46, Sadegh Sadegh pisze:
>>  Hi
>>  I can't use terminal at my Devuan 1.0 beta lxde 64. I see this " Your name -sad- is not on system.
>>  Streng. Please help me.
>>
>>  22.05.2016, 14:48, "KatolaZ" <katolaz@???>:
>>>  On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 07:22:44AM -0300, Fernando M. Maresca wrote:
>>>>   On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 11:08:47AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   > My solution has always been to keep users and root *separate*,
>>>>   > avoiding sudo altogether, and to ask myself to wear an appropriate
>>>>   > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" (that
>>>>   > I keep on my desk) whenever a part of myself has to become root and
>>>>   > perform a configuration task. I know that whenever I am wearing the
>>>>   > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" I
>>>>   > have to put extra care on whatever I do, since a mistake could cause
>>>>   > the regular users of my system (including the other part of myself) to
>>>>   > suffer unnecessary pain and disruption.
>>>>   >
>>>>   > No automagic tool can save you from your own stupidity. You need a
>>>>   > system administrator to manage your linux box, and investing a bit of
>>>>   > time in training a part of yourself for that task, and 2$ in buying a
>>>>   > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" is
>>>>   > really worth the effort, and the price :)
>>>>
>>>>   very +1
>>>>
>>>>   and keep in mind: real men do everything as root and don't make
>>>>   backups :)
>>>>
>>>>   I think sudo main advantage is to grant certain administrative
>>>>   privileges to junior sysadmin or regular users, without to reveal the
>>>>   root password.
>>>
>>>  sudo is undeniably handy when administration is shared among several
>>>  admins, but in those cases it should be used with extreme care. I know
>>>  of real situations when one of the sudoers was allowed to edit
>>>  /etc/sudoers, and left the machine unusable by other admins due to a
>>>  syntax error in /etc/sudoers...
>>>
>>>  Again, tools are just tools, and can't be replacements for policy and
>>>  knowledge.
>>>
>>>  If one has to use something like sudo, I prefer the approach of
>>>  simpler tools, in the same spirit of "sup"
>>>  https://git.devuan.org/jaromil/sup).
>>>
>>>  My2Cents
>>>
>>>  KatolaZ
>>>
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