:: Re: [Squatconf] Event near Magdebur…
Página Inicial
Delete this message
Reply to this message
Autor: Caleb James DeLisle
Data:  
Para: squatconf
Assunto: Re: [Squatconf] Event near Magdeburg (Germany)
I accept that there are reasons for some people to use FB to reach
an audience but where that becomes promotion of FB is when you start
using FB links to invite people there from other platforms (like a mailing list)


BTW my "suspicion" was actually proven. Thx Clive Thompson for tweeting it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/opinion/the-real-bias-built-in-at-facebook.html


Caleb


On 20/05/16 10:45, Naomi R wrote:
> I'm really struggling with that. A lot of the refugee support networks go through Facebook. The anarchists in Exarcheia refuse to use it but this is one of many things that cut them off from solidarity with other volunteers. Personally I want to help however I can, so I joined Facebook, which previously i swore I'd never do.
>
>
> On Fri, 20 May 2016 11:37 Caleb James DeLisle, <cjd@??? <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>> wrote:
>
>     Lots of services are "centralized" to some degree, everybody knows it's bad
>     but it works. I think it's important to explain why FB in particular is
>     considered harmful.

>
>     Experimenting on their users by adjusting the mix of content shown to them
>     to be mostly depressing and seeing how they react:
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#2014_emotion_manipulation_study

>
>     Various obvious censorship of types of content such as that related to
>     strife between kurdish people and turkish govt.
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#Censorship

>
>     What we don't know (can't prove) is that Facebook algorithms subtly act to
>     marginalize and disempower activists. Weaponizing #1 for the purpose of #2
>     would be an extremely powerful and toxic combination and because the FB
>     platform does not have documented expected behavior (like twitter does),
>     one can never know if they are being intentionally gaslighted[1] by the
>     platform.

>
>     So you can understand my reaction to a link which says "join us here https://facebo...."

>
>     Thanks,
>     Caleb

>
>
>     [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

>
>     On 20/05/16 10:18, georg@??? <mailto:georg@riseup.net> wrote:
>      > On 16-05-20 10:13:19, Dirk von Heinrichshorst wrote:
>      >> Join us here: https://www.facebook.com/events/1734984760078775 :-)
>      >
>      > Posting a "Join us here Facebook link" to squatconf@? Serious? I hope
>      > you're kidding..

>      >
>      > Cheers,
>      > Georg

>      >

>      >

>      >
>      > _______________________________________________
>      > Squatconf mailing list
>      > Squatconf@??? <mailto:Squatconf@lists.dyne.org>
>      > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/squatconf

>      >
>     _______________________________________________
>     Squatconf mailing list
>     Squatconf@??? <mailto:Squatconf@lists.dyne.org>
>     https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/squatconf

>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Squatconf mailing list
> Squatconf@???
> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/squatconf
>