I get the reluctance to mix dists. It's also not good to patch sytem
components without good reason (there was in that case)

However, live-* has always been a special case, designed to be
back-compatible and not have other "unstable deps". They even said
they won't support anyone using older versions.

Note newer (e.g. backport) kernels need newer live-* (aufs was dropped
for overlay)

D


On 16 May 2016 at 13:34, KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 01:15:40PM +0100, David Hare wrote:
>> KatolaZ, FYI, I noticed your iso has empty /dev and a patched
>> /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init (and uses an older
>> refracta-snapshot)..
>>
>> That patch was a workaround in refracta-snapshot for bug(s) which only
>> last week got officially noted. The original file is still there but
>> renamed (this only affected live systems).
>>
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823856
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823069
>>
>> The problem *seems* sorted with the latest live-boot and
>> live-bootiinitramfs-tools in unstable, although the original cause
>> appears to be a change in util-linux 2.25 ..
>>
>> It was anyway previously recommended to use live-* from unstable, even
>> if you run stable
>>
>
> Thanks a lot for the report David.
>
> If this is not a massive issue (i.e., if it does not introduce
> problems to the users of the minimal images), I would like the minimal
> images to use exactly the same packages we have in the repo, so that
> if it's a Jessie live, it would use only packages from Jessie. This is
> just to avoid dependency problems while building those images (and, to
> be honest, I have always had a personal idiosyncracy against mixing
> different repos...).
>
> I am now in the process of freezing and pushing the work I have done
> so far with the current version that uses refractasnapshot. Then I
> will produce an updated set of images which include much more stuff
> for the same price (96 MB of RAM, less than 250 MB of space).
>
> At the moment I am also considering other alternatives, e.g. using
> live-build on a debootsrapped chroot. This would save a good amount of
> space on the minimal image, would simplify the whole process, and
> would make it easier to customise things and to produce minimal live
> images also for the testing branch (ascii). But it will probably
> require a few days of spare time (or a couple of dreamless nights...)
> :)
>
> TTYL
>
> KatolaZ
>
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