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Autore: David Hare
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Oggetto: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal
KatolaZ, FYI, I noticed your iso has empty /dev and a patched
/usr/share/initramfs-tools/init (and uses an older
refracta-snapshot)..

That patch was a workaround in refracta-snapshot for bug(s) which only
last week got officially noted. The original file is still there but
renamed (this only affected live systems).

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823856
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823069

The problem *seems* sorted with the latest live-boot and
live-bootiinitramfs-tools in unstable, although the original cause
appears to be a change in util-linux 2.25 ..

It was anyway previously recommended to use live-* from unstable, even
if you run stable

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On 15 May 2016 at 20:54, KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 03:22:21PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 May 2016 17:09:34 -0400
>> ". fsmithred" <fsmithred@???> wrote:
>>
>> > Zenity is somewhat of a dependency hog. In Refracta, we abandoned it a
>> > couple years ago and replaced it with Yad.
>>
>> fsmithred,
>>
>> Thanks for reminding me of Zenity, and informing me of Yad. These
>> programs enable my shellscripts to present a GUI face to the user,
>> without all the scaffolding you need to do in PyGTk and the like.
>>
>> Given the nature of the average Devuan user, this could be a pretty
>> important capability.
>>
>
> I believe the "average" Devuan user would most probably not use a
> minimal live image anyway :) I have checked and indeed zenity is a
> dependency hell, which would install 194 more packages (we have less
> than 360 packages in total in the minimal Devuan image...) and would
> require about 300MB of additiona space (the unsquashed fs amounts to
> about 680 MB, in total). In a word, it looks like a bloat, at least in
> the context of *minimal* live images.
>
> I am working instead to include a runlevel with support for espeakout
> and brltty, which will require just a few megabytes and will be far
> more useful than zenity.
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
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