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Autor: Edward Bartolo
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A: KatolaZ
Cc: dng
Asunto: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images
Hi,

When I tried to install Devuan 64 bit on a Pentium Dual Core, 3 GB
DDR2, I couldn't get past the disk partitioner as it assumed I was
using LVM. I never used LVM because it unnecessarily adds another
layer of complexity that I deem not necessary on a family computer.
This means, I always use plain ext4 partitions for my installations.

I had to bypass the serious issue by using Debian Jessie 64
installation iso instead.

I am reposting as nobody actually reported any feedback on this issue.

Edward

On 14/05/2016, KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 07:52:49PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>
>> Yes. What I was saying is to provide an additional initramfs. For
>> instance, you could have five initramfs files:
>>
>> 1) ext4, no lvm, no encryption
>> 2) ext4 plus encryption
>> 3) ext4 plus lvm
>> 4) ext4 plus encryption plus lvm
>> 5) everything and the kitchen sink
>>
>> The grub boot menu would expose all five.
>>
>> Only #5 would take the whole 256 MB of RAM, and #1, which I believe is
>> the sum of all installation defaults, will be tiny.
>
> Thanks Steve for your comment. That's another possibility I was
> considering, and seems the most sensible one. Unfortunately, the basic
> initrd will be a bit more complicated anyway, since live-build uses
> aufs and squashfs, but not lvm (so that the support for lvm can be
> left out of initrd). But there seem to be a lot of space for improving
> over the current requirements. I am working on that already.
>
>>
>> Meanwhile, I spoze 256MB of RAM isn't a horrible disadvantage, because
>> almost everything sold in the last 10 years has more than 512MB. And if
>> someone were that light on RAM, they could boot System Rescue CD.
>>
>> Yeah, the more I think about it, the 256MB requirement is no problem at
>> all, especially because once you're actually booted, only 37MB of your
>> 256MB, leaving the rest for apps you'd be running.
>>
>> So forget everything I said about this being a shame. It's no big deal
>> at all.
>
> Nope! I agree with your first opinion: there is in principle no reason
> to require a higher amount of ram if we can squeeze the initrd to a
> bare minimum that makes almost everybody happy :) After all, the
> problem with modern distros is exactly that they carry on board as
> much as they can, even if most of the garbage will not be ever used
> once in a lifetime. A minimal live image is against this "consumistic"
> approach to distro design :)
>
> Thanks for the comments. I am working on this and will keep you
> postedin due course.
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
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