I've installed devuan beta from the amd64 netinstall and DVD, and from the
i386 CD, and in all cases, when I got to the tasksel window, there was a
checkbox for default devuan desktop followed by a list of desktop
environments to choose. I chose xfce in all cases. Do the other choices not
work?

For a lighter-weight network manager, search this list for discussions of
simple netaid. I don't think it's in the repository yet, but I'm pretty
sure it's available somewhere.

You can get a newer kernel from devuan jessie backports repo, but be
careful. The apt priority of backports is set as high as the main repo, so
it's very easy to accidentally get a flood of packages from backports. Add
the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list

# Devuan Backports
deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main

Then run 'apt-get update'.

Install the kernel you want. I see that 4.5.0 is available.

Then remove the backports line from sources.list and run 'apt-get update'
again.

DO NOT run any kind of upgrade (apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade, or
aptitude safe-upgrade or full-upgrade) while the backports repo is enabled.

Note/Request for devuan devs: Can you please lower the apt-priority of
backports? It's set to 990. In Debian, it's set to 100 to prevent
accidental upgrade of all packages in backports. Thanks.

-fsr



On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 7:20 AM, <emninger@???> wrote:

> Am Sat, 14 May 2016 05:28:42 +0000
> schrieb Irrwahn <irrwahn@???>
> > Sounds reasonable to mention the default desktop flavor. It
> > really doesn't already? (I didn't pay attention last time I
> > installed.)
>
> No. When it comes to choose the software to install, it says Devuan
> default desktop (i should have known, eventually, but i didn't ;)
> >
> > > 2) I love it's using slim (and not lightdm) as default login
> > > manager.
> >
> > However, there are problems with SLiM. Foremost, the project seems
> > to be abandoned. So I'd expect it to be replaced in future Devuan
> > releases. BTW, I've been using lightdm for years and it never really
> > let me down, save some cosmetic issues. YMMV, etc. pp.
>
> I find the configuration of lightdm ugly (configure a greeter here,
> the login there etc. pp.). One simple conf in etc, that's it or should
> it be. Preferrable then, imho, lxdm (although it seems to have problems
> with policykit (??) ).
>
> > > 3) May be for wireless there could be used some wpa_supplicant based
> > > tool (like ceni e.g.)? In any case wicd is way better and less
> > > intrusive than nm.
> >
> > IIRC Devuan even has its own GUI wrapper for wpa_supplicant. As I
> > am fine with just wpa_supplicant or wpa_gui myself, I never used
> > that tool and unfortunately cannot locate the package for it ATM.
>
> I'd be interested in. In the end, i find the configuration via
> wpa_supplicant is simpler. May be i'll try to "migrate" on my own the
> nice script from tinycorelinux. But anyway, which would be the Devuan
> wrapper? I'm aware there is wpa_gui (but it's qt based so, in a gtk
> environment it pulls lots of dependencies, i'm afraid ...
>
> > Devuan Jessie is in sync with Debian Jessie, so you will get the
> > same version general purpose kernel as in Debian. You can get a
> > more recent version from e.g. Devuan testing, codename Ascii.
> > On a personal note: IMHO, as long as nothing is seriously broken,
> > there is no need to closely follow kernel updates (modulo security
> > fixes, of course). FWIW, I am running Devuan Ascii with a 3.16
> > kernel and an 1.17 Xorg to keep the ... um ... "fine" AMD
> > proprietary drivers working. (Inb4 others commenting on that last
> > bit: No, the free drivers don't cut it, in my case at least.)
>
> That's interesting: I had the same strategy as long as i used
> slackware, but it seems modern kernels work well with catalyst (at
> least Manjaro 16.06 OpenRC does. Void too, boots fine (they come with
> kernel 4.4 or even, Void, with kernel 4.5). The case of Void is
> interesting because it does not offer automatically the non-free driver
> and never make the machine going crazily hot like the Devuan installer
> does.
>
> I was unable to install from the installer usb, because the machine
> always stopped because overheated (> 90°!!!!). In the end i had the -
> good, but doubtful idea to put the samsung on a box with crashed ice
> and voilà ... I do not know, why, but there seem something in the
> Devuan (Debian) installer routines which is extremely cpu intense
> (compared to the installers of other distros. With slackware that was
> never ever a problem, during the installation i mean!).
>
> Cheers!
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