In the past we have basically removed people / accounts if needed and have done other things as Jaromil mentioned below to block it. So what I was referring to as keeping it small etc was more when things have got out of hand someone has dealt with it etc.

To be honest I am not phased by what approach people want to take, I am not too sure how much it matters might be annoying for new people etc? But also I'm not looking at server stats to see growth etc. we have not had a problem with spammers for awhile now I believe since server side changes where made etc?

Anyways Jaromil and Eden whatever you both feel is best, if I can add any free time helping out with any admin / server tasks to ease time burden for people let me know. Apart from that happy with whatever.

Oh also Jaromil that was a brilliant interview with Keiser ;)



> On 13 May 2016, at 5:34 AM, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
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>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, eden wrote:
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>> Spam is exactly what i was trying to avoid.
>
> nothing can substitute human attention, thanks for taking care. on the
> sysadmin side we have added a captcha to ml subscriptions at least to
> weed out the less sophisticated bots around, so you can be fairly sure
> new subs are mostly humans... or at least cyborgs :^)
>
> it is a bit upsetting that only recaptcha is easy to adopt on mailman,
> anything else would require ad-hoc coding we haven't found the time
> for... and recaptcha is a third-party service ran by google, who
> technically "knows" all people subscribing and trying to subscribe
> this list, ip of connection (when not using tor) etc.
>
> you are all welcome to come up with a better solution to this problem
> perhaps this can be even discussed off-list
>
>
> ciao
>
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