On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:49:42AM -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> >On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 04:35:08PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> >> Can you use Alt+arrow keys to change consoles? Or qemu's ”sendkey”
> >> feature?
> >>
> >
> >Oh, sure I can, and this is how I got around it. I was just suggesting
> >that changing this "default" might be useful in some occasions, and
> >could avoid a bit of frustration :) After all, there is no need to
> >have the installer log on tty4, rather than tty2, except for
> >historical "reasons" (i.e., it has been there since the new Debian
> >installer was introduced back in the days, for no particular reason,
> >AFAIK).
>
> And since Alt-F4 for the installer log is so well-known and
> well-documented, not least in messages that will show up when searching
> for troubleshooting advice, the process of changing it to fix an
> edge-case annoyance with a simple workaround should involve considerable
> discussion and deliberation before choosing to throw away this
> accumulated wisdom.
>
> There are numerous options for the virtualization stack, and I haven't
> seen anyone claim QEMU, with or without KVM, has the largest usage. Let
> us not forget KVM (the virtualizer most often paired with QEMU
> management) is a Red Hat property, with all that implies for the future.
>
> The installer is a key component of Debian as a distro, and historically
> has determined much of the "what and when" for a new release. Does
> Devuan really want to further marginalize its potential user base by
> maintaining a fork of this key component with behavior different than
> upstream? --Don

Oce the Debian installer starts setting a lot of stuff up for the
benefit of systemd, we're going to have to have a fork. At that point,
the only question is whether we want to marginalize the potential user
base. I think that would be still a bad idea.

-- hendrik