On 05/06/2016 08:05 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Simon Walter <simon@???> writes:
>> On 05/05/2016 11:11 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>>> Simon Walter <simon@???> writes:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> On 05/05/2016 05:45 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>>>>> It greatly reduces the number of "low-quality" (or rather, "no quality")
>>>>> bug reports I receive as I don't (usually) get frantic phone calls at
>>>>> 3am UK time because a server in Texas terminated itself for some
>>>>> reason. Instead, I can collect the core file as soon as I get around to
>>>>> that and fix the bug.
>>>>>
>>>>> NB: I deal with appliances (as developer) and not with servers (as
>>>>> sysadmin).
>>>> So, for example, would something like daemontools be what you use with
>>>> your field deployed software?
>>> I certainly wouldn't use "something like daemontools" for anything but
>>> that's a completely different conversation (my present idea for 'server
>>> management' is to implement whatever I need in form of relatively simple
>>> 'do one thing and do it well' C programs which can be combined freely to
>>> create complex program invocation commands).
>>>
>>> OTOH, I am convinced that 'automatic restarts' is a sensible policy,
>>> especially for background infrastructure servers, as these are usually
>>> invisible to users unless they manifest themselves in form of "the
>>> internet doesn't work".
>> I understand your position.
> Maybe, maybe not. Rather not, actually. But that's not really important.
>
> [...]
>
>> I am not the author of apache. So I am not going to make assumptions
>> about when it can or cannot be automatically restarted safely.
> Unless you modify the code, you are (as I already explained) not in the
> position to decide this
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So I understand you are not really discussing this for the benefit of
Devuan but rather to discuss. Thanks for the chat. Take it easy!