:: Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan
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Lähettäjä: Steve Litt
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Aihe: Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan
On Wed, 4 May 2016 09:54:37 -0400 (EDT)
Rob Owens <rowens@???> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Litt" <slitt@???>
>
> > On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:06:07 -0400 (EDT)
> > Rob Owens <rowens@???> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with putting each init in its own directory, but sysvinit
> >> should not own /etc/init.d. sysvinit stuff should go
> >> in /etc/sysvinit and by default /etc/init.d should be a link
> >> to /etc/sysvinit/init.d. The reason is that other init systems may
> >> expect to own /etc/init.d. For instance, openrc puts all its
> >> scripts in /etc/init.d (at least on Funtoo it does).
> >
> > I don't remember any other init wanting to use /etc/init.d, EXCEPT
> > OpenRC, or EXCEPT when they want to use the sysvinit init scripts,
> > and the only one I know that wants to do that is systemd.
> >
> > I wouldn't change sysvinit's expected files one little bit. Everyone
> > assumes that /etc/init.d belongs exclusively to sysvinit. Any
> > change to sysvinit would require lots of testing, and who needs
> > that headache?


> Then you would be designing under the assumption that sysvinit is the
> "one true way"


Not "one true way", but "it's what we have right now, let's not mess
with it.

> and that all others must be modified to work around
> sysvinit -- an init system that you/we are actively attempting to make
> obsolete (eventually) by way of providing all these alternatives.


The other inits should have had the good sense not to entangle
themselves with sysvinit, and in fact most of them did have that good
sense, so for them this is a moot point.

At this point I'm not sure that *any* init system other than sysvinit
puts its daemon starting code/config under /etc/init.d. But if there is
such an init system putting its stuff under/etc/init.d, that's some
serious hubris. They could have taken their own namespace, but nooooo,
they polluted the namespace used by sysvinit for 30 years. If there is
such an init system, moving their script/config storage is actually
correcting a problem caused by the init system.

SteveT

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