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Autor: Hendrik Boom
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A: dng
Assumpte: Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 07:31:35PM +0200, parazyd wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2016, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "parazyd" <parazyd@???>
> >
> > > On Tue, 03 May 2016, Rob Owens wrote:
> > >
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "KatolaZ" <katolaz@???>
> > >>
> > >> > But do we really need all that complication? Couldn't we just leave
> > >> > the initscript of each init system in a different directory and *tell
> > >> > the init system* where they are to be found? This will allow a much
> > >> > easier coexistence of different confs.
> > >> >
> > >> > Basically, everything related to sysvinit, stays in /etc/init.d, and
> > >> > sysvinit knows it has to look there. OpenRC stuff stays in
> > >> > /etc/openrc, and openrc knows it has to look there for its scripts.
> > >> > WFTinit stuff will stay in /etc/wtf, and WTFInit knows it has to look
> > >> > there for its stuff. We add the next-init-system, it will have its
> > >> > scripts in /etc/<the-next-init-system-damn-name>.
> > >>
> > >> I agree with putting each init in its own directory, but sysvinit
> > >> should not own /etc/init.d. sysvinit stuff should go in /etc/sysvinit
> > >> and by default /etc/init.d should be a link to /etc/sysvinit/init.d.
> > >> The reason is that other init systems may expect to own /etc/init.d.
> > >> For instance, openrc puts all its scripts in /etc/init.d (at least on
> > >> Funtoo it does).
> > >>
> > >> Even though sysvinit is our default init system these days, we should
> > >> not design Devuan such that it is difficult to change that in the
> > >> future. So put sysvinit stuff in its own directory just like all the
> > >> other inits.
> > >>
> > >
> > > This is unnecessary. In OpenRC you can easily specify $SYSCONFDIR and
> > > set it to /etc/openrc. Then all will be found inside, and the system
> > > will already know what to do, without symlinking.
> >
> > Yes, but then when an openrc user wants to start/stop a service, he
> > cannot do '/etc/init.d/myservice start' like he could do on any other
> > OS using openrc. He'd have to do '/etc/openrc/myservice start'. Not a
> > really big deal, but I think it's undesirable to make Devuan's openrc
> > procedures different (especially when it could be addressed with a
> > simple symlink).
>
> With OpenRC one actually has to do: `rc-service foo start`


So what we probably want is a 'service' command that checks what init
was running as process 1 and issues the proper command for that init.

-- hendrik