On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 08:01:15AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 09:46:36PM +0000, Noel Torres wrote:
> > Go Linux <golinux@???> escribió:
> > >
> > >This is putting the cart before the horse IMO. It would be nice
> > >to get the beta out the door before focusing on ascii. Any
> > >chance some of that energy could be directed towards the beta
> > >release?
> > >
> > My energy is mostly useless for Jessie beta, as it is now. The best
> > I can do at this stage is report bugs (and we don't have a bug
> > tracker) and think about things when I have a little time. And this
> > is what I'm doing :D
>
> I have not followed things very closely. Is the implication that "beta"
> is now being named testing/Ascii?

beta is the beta for jessie, which corresponds to Debian jessie, which
is currently Debian stable.

And if I recall the other names correctly,

ascii corresponds to the next Debian release, which I think is
testing/stretch.

Ceres corresponds to unstable/sid.

> I'm still running debian Wheezie on my main system and devuan Jessie on
> a secondary system.

I'm running devuan jessie on my laptop and debian wheezy on my server.
I plan to upgrade the server to devuan jessie when I have the time.
I may have to replace the hardware first, which is failing in ways that
do not seriously affect daily operation, but do affect long-term
stability.

> While I could install Jessie on the main system and
> remove systemd, there's so many other problems with Jessie that I
> hesitate to do so and await Devuan beta/Ascii. But this has been a long
> wait. Is there any sense of when beta/testing/Ascii will be ready? This
> year? In six months?

It'll be jessie that emerges as beta. The discussion about
ascii here is about what we might do after jessie finally gets its
official roduction release. (never mind that a number of people are
successfully using it for production now).

I think the developers are being *very* conservative about when they
consider it ready for beta, given the poisonous political atmosphere
that has developed around systemd-or-not.

-- hendrik

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