Auteur: psy Datum: Aan: genjix@riseup.net >> Amir Taaki CC: System undo crew Onderwerp: Re: [unSYSTEM] #NuitDebout
Whatevs: > Yeah I most definitely think there is not a plan or unified effort.
Why you so sure about that?.
Are you on Paris?. Because I listened different plans. For example,
yesterday was Yanis Varoufakis talking about some ideas for building
Europe. And not only a plan A or B, more than one and using different ways.
Also was Stallman here talking about how important is to use trusted
networks on this kind of social movements...
And a big etc from non "mainstream" people.
>Just a bunch of pacifist platitudes without any real analysis of power, or
> how to take down the state.
Lol. You messianic language about truth is a nice joke... ;_)
Are you defeating states with your actions, mr Genjix?. Let me dude as
you about that...
Wanna talk about Bitcoin -poker gamers- revolution?.
Juasss!.
> Your answer is a classic example, listing
> synergy, rhythmics and energy... but where is this action leading?
Sure. We are building a social network. Isn't enough?
> You have a disaffected youth,
Hahaha. You don't know me, mr. Genjix.
Actually, I think I took more information about you when we where
together than you from me because I was really interested on your speech.
But I don't go to say here on public why I think that you don't pay so
much attention to others around you.
Or maybe you want to talk about you? ;-)
> and misdirect their energy into controlled
> protests that inevitably fail and lead to nothing.
Nice!. Did you realize it alone, is a reddit conclusion or maybe you
take this argument directly from establishment.
Talk about "energy" is just a metaphoric example about how people is
involving on protest. And how they are trying to reach some national
objetives, but also some international ones.
> How is that helping
> towards anything?
Is you attitude helping on any way?.
Sorry for my language, but I don't support criers, pessimists and trolls.
> I don't see any plan. Just random "actions" with feel good rationale.