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On 18.04.2016, at 18:04, KABA Bankaly <bankaly@???> wrote:

> Place de la République, Wall st and St Paul are all pretty places to meet up and dream of changing the world...
>
> But it's just PR if I may say...
> Nothing effective and disruptive.
> However in my modest opinion, your impact in a place like Africa will surely have global repercussion.
>
> I'm unknown to all of you ..I'm just really interested in tech, empowerment, disruption...
>
> I'm in this mailing list since I'm interested in bitcoins and I'd love to help world diasporas benefit from the blockchain and stop paying Moneygram, W.U.& co 10-12% fee per transaction.
>
> Grew up in Paris' banlieues «les Cités» , studied IT and finance, worked in the City for a decade...now back to the Cités working on an tech project aiming at empowering the french «molenbeck» tenants living in those shitty projects.
>
> I'm reading regularly this group emails...you guys have no idea of the impact your Brain Power and energy would do to Africa...and thefore to the world!
> Place de la République, Wall st and St Paul are all pretty places to meet up and dream of changing the world.
> But it's just PR if I may say...nothing effective and disruptive.
>
> However, in my modest opinion, your impact in a place like Africa will surely have a global impact.
> Just look how M-Pesa has been adopted by Kenyan.
>
> - the first source of financing of the continent is its diapora not the 10eur a month some of you may give to NGOs.
> "Imagine all the people" of the african diaspora sending money back home at no cost.
>
> - The only currency in the world with a fixed exchange rate..is the CFA Franc (French Colonies of Africa then named French Community of Africa and nowadays rebranded African Financial Community). This fixed rate is guaranteed by the french treasury against hundreds of billions Euros paid every month by the so-called poor african countries.
> Let's disrupt this with technology.
>
> "Imagine All the" CFA franc countries keeping their foreign currency reserves for developping their countries...
> That's true "Global Debout", "Occupy"...etc.
>
> - disrupting, for instance, the cocoa business at its source for the benefit of the People growing it and.for.the country, how can tech help with this?
>
> ...etc
>
> Those people at Place de la Rép. can change the world...and that's where it starts. Your skills and brain power can have a global impact...but focusing on the real cause with true global impact.
>
> Fodé
>
> Le 18 avr. 2016 4:27 PM, "Johnny Teatent" <occupyteatent@???> a écrit :
> ​the london debout - i have been watching the livestream - it is the same people "facilitating" the same unscalable consensus model. it is a repeat of the occupy (without all the goodwill from the people who hadnt tried that way last time and were willing to give it a go) -thus the same old discussions, skewing towards the enviromental, with certain topics off-limits - - IE they talk of tax dodgers and panama papers - the uk there is a very serious paedophile problem, IE all the major party machines have covered up or encouraged (with help of security apparatus, police and spooks) for paedophiles. Greville Janner, and Cyril Smith, William Hague and Ted heath.
> this is something that could get a mass of people onto the streets (though i fear these leaders (oh sorry facilitators) wouldnt like that because those angry people wouldnt wait there turn in the "progressive stack"
> i dont know about france but london smacks of just a circle jerk at best ,and an intelligence gathering excerise at worst.
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Whatevs <genjix@???> wrote:
> Yeah I most definitely think there is not a plan or unified effort. Just
> a bunch of pacifist platitudes without any real analysis of power, or
> how to take down the state. Your answer is a classic example, listing
> synergy, rhythmics and energy... but where is this action leading?
>
> You have a disaffected youth, and misdirect their energy into controlled
> protests that inevitably fail and lead to nothing. How is that helping
> towards anything?
>
> I don't see any plan. Just random "actions" with feel good rationale.
>
> psy:
> >
> > Whatevs:
> >> 10,000 people or 1 million people what do you hope to achieve?
> >
> > You mean in Paris or all around the world?.
> >
> > If is in Paris, 1 million much better than 10,000... but I don't know if
> > there are enough squatted buildings for all of them... ;-)
> >
> > Btw, I really like numbers 'irony'... Just simplify all argument on
> > terms on quantity, forgiving quality.
> >
> > Is a typical resource used by people who ignore reality such as police,
> > politics, pessimists, etc.. when they talk about demonstrations.
> >
> > You think that quantity is a question to achieve?.
> >
> > Maybe yes to show that we are united all around the world... Maybe not
> > if we talk about quality. Whatever, that is not relevance...
> >
> > Look, I come from #15M experience and actually I am trying to support
> > 'NuitDebout' (now, #GlobalDebout) with my knowledge and contacts and
> > what I can see is that there are many operation differences like
> > rhythmics, networks used, police strategies, etc.. between activists
> > from France and from other countries.
> >
> > But also, I see many new things.
> >
> > On France more people is living directly from state than in Spain which
> > is a handicap to mobilize them. But curiously they are moving their ass...
> >
> > I think that a "key" to understand why is because they are not
> > protesting because of personal needs (social alarm).
> >
> > They have another 'root' causes that they are trying to solve using
> > enthusiasm which is good and bad.
> >
> > Good because is an 'energy' really powerful for feels and revolutions
> > and bad because by the moment only "middle-classes" (students,
> > syndicates, working-classes, etc..) are protesting at streets.
> >
> > On the other hand, you know that people is giving electricity to
> > 'media-center' by using bikes?.
> >
> > I think that France activists/artivists/.. have a lot of experiences to
> > show us...
> >
> > Finally, I remember my first time on Indymedia a lot of years ago
> > discovering from my room on the Basque Country that global protest is
> > possible.
> >
> > Now with #NuitDebout + #Occupy + #15M + XXX + Internet, I am realizing
> > that this is a reality.
> >
> > I think is just a question of crossing synergies and build a virtual
> > network directly linked with physical world so we just need to create a
> > strong social network to manage resources, again. That's it...
> >
> >> What will waving placards do without serious organization and a plan?
> >
> > You think that there is not a plan mr. Genjix?.
> >
> > Please, just follow the 'white rabbit' ... ;-)
> >
>
>
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