On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:36:58 +0200
Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:

> hi all
>
> today at 10:00 CET Nextime has dropped our first batch of ballast off
> the board.
>
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla/commit/3221b047d6f54bb5dd06888c3c354ec882e4ea6e
>
> meaning now the systemd and systemd-sysv packages are not anymore
> available from the Devuan repositories.

This is *such* good news. You're putting your money where your mouth
is: Unavailablity of systemd as a crutch means you're now the real deal.

When DebianFork.Org went up in the fall of 2014, a person could be
forgiven for thinking this project was a bluff, by the anonymous
"Veteran Unix Admins", to influence Ian Jackson's GR:

https://web.archive.org/web/20141019125519/http://debianfork.org/

Now, 20 months later, Devuan doesn't use systemd, even as a shim or
crutch. People are using Devuan as a daily driver desktop or an
important server. And I think one could make a very credible case that
today, the Devuan community is more trustworthy and perhaps more
skilled than the Debian community it forked.

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SteveT

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