On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 05:07:44PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> dear devs 1st and foremost I wish you a great weekend!
>
> hereby I'm proposing to move forward with the BETA plan and starting
> ASAP on this weekend or on monday to mask OUT from all repositories
> the systemd packages, including libsystemd0
>
> this may break things, but then we need to see them to have them fixed
>
> plus I saw myself, as reported from others too, that removing
> libsystemd0 actually FIXES the problem of shutdown from desktop (which
> doesn't happens when that is around, go figure what is the mess they
> are doing with policykit and the rest.. which now uses.. javascript?!)
>
> so well, lets get rid of it and get over it ;^) what do you think?
>
> ciao!
>

I don't agree.
removing libsystemd0 right now can lead to a lot of breaking expecially
in complex server scenarios, our first objective, other than cleaning
the system, should remain stability.

I opposite propose to fork libsystemd0 and, in any way, make it useful
for us to compile a list of packages that needs to be cleaned up, maybe
just by logging on syslog ( on a dedicated file? ) which program call
anything from libsystemd and asking users to send us those files?

This way we can proceed to remove gradually any systemd reference
without breaking things for users.


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