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Auteur: shraptor
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Aan: dng
Onderwerp: Re: [DNG] vdev packaging effort ( was: state of what's working for modern desktop usage)
On 2016-02-10 15:11, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 10/02/2016 12:02, shraptor a écrit :
>> On 2016-02-10 00:35, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:20:32AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:15:28AM +0100, shraptor wrote:
>>>> > >Vdev is still in its final stages of development, as far as I know.
>>>> > >Running on developpment asd some test systems, but still being
>>>> > >thorougly tested on corner cases before being introduced into Devuan.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is my belief that vdev should go in some testing or development
>>>> > repo.
>>>>
>>>> Like Debian's 'experimental' repo?
>>>
>>> Yes please!
>>>
>>> If you think the code is in good enough shape to be unleashed into
>>> the
>>> public, even into experimental, I'd be delighted to help on the
>>> packaging/uploading front.
>>>
>>> (I know nothing about the workings of udev, though.)
>>
>> I think the code is good enough and now is the time to get more users
>> testing it.
>> It works on my specific hardware cause I bug-hunted the sh** out of
>> it.
>> needs to be tested on more computers.
>>
>> I guess I have to install devuan to get a working environment then.
>> Any input on what would be a good install iso for this? I mean
>> an iso with a system we should target. Maybe better to do a virtualbox
>> install, might be a lot of rebooting with initramfs work.
>>
>> Thank you Adam for offering help, Are you knowledgeable on initramfs
>> in general?
>> I think we need someone versed in debian/devuan initramfs generation
>> with hooks and so
>> on?
>>
>>
>> I think Aitor wrote a while ago about creating a vdev package?
>> Aitor could you give an update on that effort?
>>
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> Scooby
>
>     I have some experience with initramfs, and I have already tested
> vdev with Busybox in initramfs a while ago. But have no experience in
> generating a Debian/Devuan initramfs. Here's my experience with
> vdev+busybox:

>
>     There was two problems:
>     1) Busybox's blkid doesn't accept any option. Formatting options
> are no problem because vdev manages to not use them, but the -p option
> is definitely missing. To be able to fully test vdev, I had to build
> the legacy blkid from util-linux.
>     2) At the time of this test campaign, the shebang line of vdev
> scripts was #!/bin/dash, which doesn't work in Busybox. It should be
> replaced by #!/bin/sh which works in all cases.


Scripts are still dash

>
>     With the conditions described above, ie busybox, vdev, blkid (all
> linked statically against Musl libc) and modified shebang lines, the
> startup was working without error when booting from a USB key on my
> amd64 laptop.

>
>     I guess in Devuan/Debian, Busybox is dynamicaly linked against
> glibc; therefore adding blkid wouldn't dramatically increase the
> bloat.



Thanks a lot for information, Any is valuable.

I am not familiar with debian/devuan at all, I come from the Arch Linux
way
of doing things. It will take some time to get down with devuan I am
sure.

There is probably a world of difference between arch and debian/devuan.

>
>     Didier

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