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Auteur: Marlon Nunes
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Aan: dng
Onderwerp: Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0
This was already discussed, Devuan is a new project with their own
ideas. Please look at the mailing list archives. The Devuan is moving
forward to put in practice their own ideas. So forget about Debian.

On 2016-01-29 07:07, richard lucassen wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:54:22 +0000
> Rainer Weikusat <rainerweikusat@???> wrote:
>
>> >> The issue is that many people in devuan are so allergic to systemd
>> >> that they will not tolerate a library with that string in its name.
>> >
>> > Ah, I didn't know that. Thnx :)
>>
>> Considering that I wrote that in reply to you and also in reply to the
>> other person who asserted "Don't worry. We just have you best interest
>> in mind!" why was there any uncertainty of the technical purpose of
>> libsystemd?
>
> Now you're suggesting that libsystemd is all CSS. Any programmer can
> have a look at the sources to see if Tobias is right or not.
>
> But anyway, I will not say that you're wrong, I just don't know. But I
> think that all sorts of conspiracy theories will not help us any
> further.
>
> I'm very pleased to see that someone is building a libsystemdfree xorg.
> But what about security updates? And what about future versions? Who is
> going to do that? What about the robustness of Devuan? Don't get me
> wrong, I really like the Devuan project, but wouldn't it be better to
> create a "systemv.debian.org", a sub version of debian, like the
> "backports.debian.org"? If Devuan is part of the Debian project, we
> will have much more influence on what's going on. Maybe it's better to
> build an extension to Debian than to build our own infrastructure.
>
> I fear many people won't agree with me, but I think it's better to
> cooperate with Debian than to fight Debian. Debian has a nice
> infrastructure. If we will be able to build a Debian extension and not
> a Debian fork, I think we can all win. On one side we will be able to
> use Debian's infrastructure and have influence on what's going on
> there, on the other side Debian will have a nice and fully supported
> non-systemd version.
>
> R.


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