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Συντάκτης: Arnt Karlsen
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Προς: dng
Καινούρια Θέματα: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft
Αντικείμενο: Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:29:06 +0100, Wim wrote in message
<CACC-TiRegFW0E-NE2EJMLXmh=zH6YeCuLGhnfw+qjkRmtsaRGA@???>:

> Hi List,
>
>
> ... Follow the money...
>
> Maybe this is related too?
>
> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.html


.."maybe." ;o)

> The Linux Foundation quietly dropped community representation. No more
> voting rights for simple members.
>
> Looks like a coup to me.
>
> And that begs the question: "Who is Karen Sandler?"
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Sandler


..small fish, nice tits. ;o)

> Both major law firms she worked for in the past, Gibson, Dunn &
> Crutcher and Clifford Chance, have multiple ties to Microsoft. In
> itself not remarkable, perhaps, as both have most of the fortune 500
> as clients.
>
> One example: Project Tomorrow, see
> http://www.tomorrow.org/docs/Gibson-Dunn-laptopdonationrelease.DOC
> What's in a name?


..names, chk out their partners 'n clients... ;o)

> Makes me think about a Hillary Clinton remark to someone stating that
> talks between the tech industry and US govt about encryption
> backdoors weren't exactly successful: "That's not what I've heard"...
>
> Slip of the tongue?
>
> What do you think?


..money owns political power.

> Cheers,
>
>
> Wim
>
> 2016-01-22 0:34 GMT+01:00 Arnt Karlsen <arnt@???>:
>
> > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:46:55 +0100, Didier wrote in message
> > <56A0EF5F.3050705@???>:
> >
> > > Le 21/01/2016 13:08, Simon Hobson a écrit :
> > > > What if we s/Microsoft/Rackspace/
> > > > (you can use pretty well any hosting outfit really)
> > > > The basic underlying thing that this announcement shows is that
> > > > ${company} now supports ${OS} on it's hosting platform. Yes, the
> > > > sole reason they are doing it where ${OS}==Debian is because
> > > > they think there's money to be made from it. I think you'll
> > > > find that most of the hosting outfits are in it to make money -
> > > > sorry if the idea that someone is allowed to make a profit
> > > > upsets some sensitive types.
> > >
> > >      I don't know for Rackspace.

> >
> > ..learn ;o):
> >
> > http://www.groklaw.net/search.php?query=Rackspace+&keyType=phrase&datestart=&dateend=&topic=0&type=all&author=0&mode=search
> >
> > > But MS has a specific log of trying to kill FOSS and specifically
> > > Linux, by *all means*, including technical locking and abuse of
> > > law.
> >
> > ..drumroll please, _I_ ;o) suggested we put "Microsoft Litigation"
> > here:
> > http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2005010107100653
> > aaand on the left hand stortcut menu, where it has gained an extra
> > "s" since "my post-Groklaw" litigation took off.
> >
> > ..the _appearant_ importance of #550,000 over rounder figures like
> > #500,000, #600,000, #700,000, #800,000 etc in e.g.
> > https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2015/08/index.en.html#newdpn
> > also have me doubt the other "Once upon a time"-tales of "Microsoft
> > support of Debian 8 only" and "only since March 2015" etc that I
> > see here.
> >
> > ..the US 5 M$ Microsoft reported spending on "combating computer
> > viruses" to the SEC for Q3-2003 and the US 106M$ they squirmed
> > away to their TSG etc proxy litigation in that same SEC filing for
> > that same Q3-2003 quarter, speaks volumes of their intentions,
> > is why we said "Always, Always, Always Follow The Money." ;o)
> > http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20030831174259231
> >
> > > I haven't seen any sign they're going to give up anytime soon on
> > > that fight, and I don't think here is such a sign: they earn a
> > > lot of profit and the little more they can gain with Linux on
> > > Azure is completely negligible in comparison with the strategic
> > > goal of killing Linux.
> > >
> > >      Maybe MS haven't any legal means to forbid their employees to
> > > work for Linux during their free time. Otherwise, they have other
> > > reasons to tolerate it.

> >
> > ..such "tolerance" is done mostly "to know thy enemy", it's also
> > quite handy for luring in e.g. patent litigation poisons, "good"
> > design ideas, "binary [in the chemical warfare sense] poisons"
> > etc tools to scuttle e.g. GNU, Debian etc Linux, e.g. by telling
> > e.g. our dear Lennart tall stories about "How the War on Terror
> > Desperately Needs Secret National Security Backdoors in Linux"
> > etc. Etc. Explains their zeal, etc.
> >
> >
> > --
> > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
> > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
> > Scenarios always come in sets of three:
> > best case, worst case, and just in case.
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> >



--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case.