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Auteur: Wim
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Onderwerp: Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft
Hi List,


... Follow the money...

Maybe this is related too?

http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.html

The Linux Foundation quietly dropped community representation. No more
voting rights for simple members.

Looks like a coup to me.

And that begs the question: "Who is Karen Sandler?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Sandler

Both major law firms she worked for in the past, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
and Clifford Chance, have multiple ties to Microsoft. In itself not
remarkable, perhaps, as both have most of the fortune 500 as clients.

One example: Project Tomorrow, see
http://www.tomorrow.org/docs/Gibson-Dunn-laptopdonationrelease.DOC
What's in a name?

Makes me think about a Hillary Clinton remark to someone stating that talks
between the tech industry and US govt about encryption backdoors weren't
exactly successful: "That's not what I've heard"...

Slip of the tongue?

What do you think?

Cheers,


Wim

2016-01-22 0:34 GMT+01:00 Arnt Karlsen <arnt@???>:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:46:55 +0100, Didier wrote in message
> <56A0EF5F.3050705@???>:
>
> > Le 21/01/2016 13:08, Simon Hobson a écrit :
> > > What if we s/Microsoft/Rackspace/
> > > (you can use pretty well any hosting outfit really)
> > > The basic underlying thing that this announcement shows is that
> > > ${company} now supports ${OS} on it's hosting platform. Yes, the
> > > sole reason they are doing it where ${OS}==Debian is because they
> > > think there's money to be made from it. I think you'll find that
> > > most of the hosting outfits are in it to make money - sorry if the
> > > idea that someone is allowed to make a profit upsets some sensitive
> > > types.
> >
> >      I don't know for Rackspace.

>
> ..learn ;o):
>
> http://www.groklaw.net/search.php?query=Rackspace+&keyType=phrase&datestart=&dateend=&topic=0&type=all&author=0&mode=search
>
> > But MS has a specific log of trying to kill FOSS and specifically
> > Linux, by *all means*, including technical locking and abuse of law.
>
> ..drumroll please, _I_ ;o) suggested we put "Microsoft Litigation" here:
> http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2005010107100653
> aaand on the left hand stortcut menu, where it has gained an extra
> "s" since "my post-Groklaw" litigation took off.
>
> ..the _appearant_ importance of #550,000 over rounder figures like
> #500,000, #600,000, #700,000, #800,000 etc in e.g.
> https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2015/08/index.en.html#newdpn
> also have me doubt the other "Once upon a time"-tales of "Microsoft
> support of Debian 8 only" and "only since March 2015" etc that I
> see here.
>
> ..the US 5 M$ Microsoft reported spending on "combating computer
> viruses" to the SEC for Q3-2003 and the US 106M$ they squirmed
> away to their TSG etc proxy litigation in that same SEC filing for
> that same Q3-2003 quarter, speaks volumes of their intentions,
> is why we said "Always, Always, Always Follow The Money." ;o)
> http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20030831174259231
>
> > I haven't seen any sign they're going to give up anytime soon on that
> > fight, and I don't think here is such a sign: they earn a lot of
> > profit and the little more they can gain with Linux on Azure is
> > completely negligible in comparison with the strategic goal of
> > killing Linux.
> >
> >      Maybe MS haven't any legal means to forbid their employees to
> > work for Linux during their free time. Otherwise, they have other
> > reasons to tolerate it.

>
> ..such "tolerance" is done mostly "to know thy enemy", it's also
> quite handy for luring in e.g. patent litigation poisons, "good"
> design ideas, "binary [in the chemical warfare sense] poisons"
> etc tools to scuttle e.g. GNU, Debian etc Linux, e.g. by telling
> e.g. our dear Lennart tall stories about "How the War on Terror
> Desperately Needs Secret National Security Backdoors in Linux"
> etc. Etc. Explains their zeal, etc.
>
>
> --
> ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
> Scenarios always come in sets of three:
> best case, worst case, and just in case.
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