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Autore: Stephanie Daugherty
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Oggetto: Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended
the plethora of numbered config files is a consequence of debian policy
(config files have to be owned by exactly one package, and that's the only
package which can automatically touch them) rather, than any design of
grub2 itself. Split configs is the way that Debian works around this policy
while still allowing packages to automate configuration - the kernel
package owns a file with the bits needed to enable that kernel, the
memtest86 package own a file with the bits to add memtest86, and so on, so
that there are no turf wars

The same pattern exists in many other Debian packages, it's not a grub2
thing at all.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> On this machine I am using right now on which I developed netman, I
> have grub2 installed. Since I never agreed with how grub2 should be
> managed, I opted to use a manual method to update grub.cfg. This
> machine has about 9 Debian/Devuan installations installed to separate
> partitions on a GPT formatted disk. The first partition is the one
> dedicated to maintain grub2 with only a terminal and root as a user. I
> found that grub.cfg uses an easy syntax that I can adopt to manually
> edit the file to achieve more or less the same ease of use I used to
> enjoy with grub1. In case grub2 overwrites grub.cfg, I keep a backup
> so as to easily restore it to the prior state. All other installations
> do not have a bootloader installed so that the primary bootloader
> would always continue to load the correct manually written grub.cfg as
> I wanted.
>
> My setup prevents any installation from modifying grub.cfg without my
> knowledge. It also makes it impossible for any installation to modify
> the primary bootloader except the one with grub2 installed that I
> almost seldom boot. In fact, there is no grub menu entry for the
> installation that I use to manage grub2. When I need to do that, I
> press 'e' as soon as the grub2 menu is displayed and edit the menu
> entry's stanza as appropriate.
>
> Although it may sound complicated, this setup saved me quite a lot of
> headaches about changing menus without my approval.
>
> Edward
>
> On 19/01/2016, Joel Roth <joelz@???> wrote:
> > Steve Litt wrote:
> >> On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:20:10 +0100
> >> Adam Borowski <kilobyte@???> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:02:17AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> > > Grub is the systemd of bootloaders. It's all about pretty colors,
> >> > > nice images, and hiding the fact that processes are being
> >> > > instantiated.
> >> >
> >> > Grub is complex, but that's caused by what it tries to do (read the
> >> > kernel image from real filesystems instead of a blockmap like lilo).
> >> > It doesn't go beyond its scope, unlike systemd.
> >>
> >> The preceding paragraph was much more true of Grub1 than its gargantuan
> >> spawn, Grub2.
> >>
> >> Grub1 read filesystems just fine. Grub2 has prioritized all sorts of
> >> pretty, and the simplicity of Grub1 has been lost.
> >
> > The grub developers wrote that they began grub2 due
> > to limitations and maintenance problems with grub1.
> >
> >> SteveT
> >>
> >> Steve Litt
> >> January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
> >> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28
> >>
> >>
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