On 12/28/2015 12:37 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:16:17 +0100
> aitor_czr <aitor_czr@???> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 12/28/2015 02:07 AM, Go Linux <golinux@???>e.org wrote:
>>> It's quite a long list. If you see anything in there you can live
>>> without, please post to the issue on git
>>>
>>> #apt-cache show task-xfce-desktop
>>> #apt-cache show xfce4-goodies
>>>
>>> dev1fanboy has a minimal list posted here:
>>>
>>> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/desktop-light-list
>>>
>>> That might be a good place to start. This wouldn't replace the
>>> full xfce desktop. It would just provide a lite alternative that
>>> could be built up by the user.
>>>
>>> golinux
>> I propose a new package 'xfce4-default-settings' to customize the
>> default appearance of the desktop in devuan. I also propose alsa-oss,
>> xfce4-screenshooter, transmission, medit, ristretto, evince, putty,
>> xsane, searchmonkey, dmz-cursor-theme, clipman, netman (in jessie?),
>> parole, xfce4-taskmanager
>>
>> I will write in the wiki of gitlab.
>>

>>     Aitor.
> Hi Aitor,

>
> Your subject intrigues me. There are 2 reasons I prefer LXDE to Xfce:
>
> 1) LXDE is much lighter
> 2) LXDE is more reliable
>
> If you can really lighten up Xfce, that addresses #1, and probably to
> some extent alleviates #2. I believe lighter usually corresponds to
> less bugs, or else I'd be using Redhat. Or Windows.
>
> You mention alsa-oss and remind me of a goal in the back of my mind.
> Once, with Manjaro-OpenRC, I managed to make a computer with no
> PulseAudio (of course) and even no ALSA. It used OSS, and functioned
> beautifully: mplayer, smplayer, youtube, it was all perfect. No dbus
> need apply. I had to install an OSS compatible mixer, but that wasn't
> hard. I've never been able to do that again, and think it would be a
> cool option for those who want to keep entanglement to a minimum.
>
I like LXDE over Xfce for machines with limited resources, but when I
get beyond that point Xfce gets the nod.

I was worried that LXDE was going to stagnate with the advent of LXQt,
but that does not appear to be the case thus far with the development
pretty much parallel.
What I saw once as an advantage to LXDE and LXQt was the ability to grab
and run with pieces of Gnome and KDE respectively, but now it seems that
without the porting of applications, which I believe is happening to
some degree, that will also drag in the encumbrance of systemd.

Clarke