Messing with xfce sounds like mission-creep to me.
Does xfce need messing with in any way to get rid of systemd dependencies?
Then do it.
Otherwise, leave well alone.

I run debian jessie with systemd on my iMac and my main laptop because
they need to work.
Just about all packages seem to have many more dependencies than they
used to.
I don't like it, but for the moment that is how it is.

For 'normal' users xfce is a good choice.
I use xfce fluxbox and ctwm depending on mood, tasks, and hardware.

DaveT


On 29/12/15 18:44, richard lucassen wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 14:29:21 +0100
> Adam Borowski <kilobyte@???> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 09:46:04AM +0100, richard lucassen wrote:
>>> Please do not forget WindowMaker which has been a lightweight,
>>> highly configurable and stable wm for many years.
>> I used to swear by it, somewhere around 1998-2000. Then, out of
>> nostalgia, I recently given it a look -- and failed to find a
>> _single_ improvement.
> There are some small changes, or "improvements" if you like, but it
> worked well in 1997 and it still works well in 2015. The only thing you
> can add is bloatware IMHO ;-)
>
>> On the other hand, there are regressions -- it
>> doesn't play well with Debian menu anymore.
> You may be right, I have no idea, simply because I don't use the menu.
> IIRC there is a Debian menu after a fresh install, bus as I copy the
> GNUstep dir right after a fresh install I will probably never know :)
>
> R.
>