On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 02:40:08PM +0100, John Hughes wrote:
> >>No, you don't. You do have to have systemd installed, [ see below for
> >>why ], but systemd does not have to be pid 1.
> >
> >OK, systemd doesn't have to be pid1, but by your admission, you still have
> >to have it installed *even* if you don't want to, this is *not* choice!
>
> Having a few files and directories on your disk is a major problem? systemd
> is not running if you're using systemd-shim, it just needs the systemd
> directories (that's why systemd-shim depends on systemd -- I suppose it
> would be possible to break the systemd package up into "systemd-config" and
> "systemd-binaries", but what would be the point?)

There's far more to systemd than just init. It's not just empty directories
or config that's needed on a -shim system. Logind for example.

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