On 20/12/15 13:20, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:21:11PM +0100, John Hughes wrote:
>> On 20/12/15 11:18, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>> Package: libpam-systemd
>>> [...]
>>> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libselinux1 (>= 1.32),
>>> systemd (= 228-2), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-6), dbus,
>>> systemd-shim (>= 8-2) | systemd-sysv
>>>
>> Yes, like I said, libpam-systemd depends on systemd-shim *or* systemd-sysv.
>>
>> You don't need or want systemd installed if you have systemd-shim installed.
> Please reread what I pasted again. There's a hard dependency on systemd.
> And libpam-systemd is the only real user of systemd-shim.
>

You are in fact right, libpam-systemd needs systemd installed, and
either systemd as pid 1, or systemd-shim installed (and hence init as
pid 1).

That's not what I was hoping for. I'll have to do more investigation.

Sorry for the confusion.