+1
How soon can we expect to see a beta/final release?
Everything else is irrelevant, surely.
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Steve Litt <slitt@???>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a partial list of things I just don't do:
>
> * I don't go into a Catholic church saying "Abortion isn't that bad."
>
> * I don't go into an abortion rights group meeting saying "Bans on
> abortion aren't that bad."
>
> * I don't go into Linux venues saying "Linux is primitive compared to
> the superior OS/x and Windows.
>
> * I don't go into Mac or Windows venues extolling the virtues of Linux.
>
> * I don't go onto the dng mailing lists saying "systemd-component isn't
> that bad."
>
> Because I have a life.
>
> Those who have a life don't move into a group or venue and challenge
> the group or venue's foundational principle, because it's much easier
> to join a more fitting group or venue, or else make your own group or
> venue. Those with a life have better things to do than try to start
> conflict.
>
> Those who don't have a life send 31 posts, all contradictory to the
> group's foundational principle, in 1.5 days. I can't begin to speculate
> what satisfaction such people derive from their activities, and the
> arguments their activities spawn, but the result is all too clear: They
> use up valuable energy that should be used to further the group's
> mission. And with the help of those who reply to them, they create anger
> that drives away the not-yet-committed.
>
> They damage the group. Don't assist them by responding. Don't turn a
> mole-hill into a mountain. Instead, do what I just did:
>
> :0:
> * From.*thetroll@???
> * ^(To|Cc).*dng@???
> /dev/null
>
> Naturally, you can also use your email client's native
> filters, if you prefer.
>
> Let me ask you a couple questions:
>
> * If a tree falls in a remote forest where no creature can hear, did it
> really make a sound?
>
> * If a troll trolls on dng, but everyone's filtered him out, did he
> really troll at all? Or perhaps more to the point, did he cause any
> damage?
>
> In the past 1.5 days, a single troll and those who responded accounted
> for 60 messages. All but the troll had the same opinion: We'd prefer
> not to have any libsystemd dependencies. Only the troll disagreed. Do
> we really owe the troll an explanation, once it becomes obvious he's
> not looking for one: He's looking only to create conflict?
>
> With trolls unheard, we can better get down to the not inconsiderable
> business of bringing the Devuan sans-systemd OS to beta and then to
> production status.
>
> When it comes to trolls, my policy is this:
>
> Killfile and move on!
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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