On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:21:11PM +0100, John Hughes wrote:
> On 20/12/15 11:18, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:12:05AM +0100, John Hughes wrote:
> >>
> >>Huh? systemd-shim is a tool for using libbpam-systemd (which Gnome depends
> >>on) without systemd being *installed*
> >>
> >>In fact it *breaks* systemd, you can't have them both installed.
> >Package: libpam-systemd
> >[...]
> >Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libselinux1 (>= 1.32),
> > systemd (= 228-2), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-6), dbus,
> > systemd-shim (>= 8-2) | systemd-sysv
> >
> Yes, like I said, libpam-systemd depends on systemd-shim *or* systemd-sysv.
>
> You don't need or want systemd installed if you have systemd-shim installed.

Please reread what I pasted again. There's a hard dependency on systemd.
And libpam-systemd is the only real user of systemd-shim.

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