Hi, I'm just a lurker on the Devuan mailing list, and after the posts the
last few days just want to make a suggestion. You are all doing prodigious
things in configuring a downstream version of one of the oldest linux
distributions. Keep doing that, and when things get stressful and a bit out
of sorts and you get irritated and whatnot, take deep breaths, go smell the
proverbial roses for a while, get some sleep, and stop vilifying your
colleagues. Internal dissension is how you forked from Debian in the first
place. Chill, and keep up the good work. I now will go back to lurk mode.
Best for the holiday season. I am appreciative of reading of Devuan's
development, and want it to succeed.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 5:33 PM, <dng-request@???> wrote:
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> 1. Re: Pushed my debianized netman sources. (Edward Bartolo)
> 2. Re: Pushed my debianized netman sources. (Edward Bartolo)
> 3. Re: netman building using dpkg-buildpackage (aitor_czr)
> 4. Re: Pointer error in the backend of Netman (aitor_czr)
> 5. Re: top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of
> netman. (dan pridgeon)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:21:54 +0100
> From: Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???>
> To: fsmithred <fsmithred@???>
> Cc: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.
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> fsmithred wrote:
>
> Sample netman.desktop:
>
> [Desktop Entry]
> Categories=Application;Network;
> Exec=netman
> GenericName=Netman
> Icon=netman
> Name=Netman Network Manager
> Comment=Start netman without system tray icon
> Terminal=false
> Type=Application
> Categories=Network;
>
>
> netman-gui.install:
>
> netman /usr/bin/
> netman.png /usr/share/pixmaps
> netman.desktop /usr/share/applications
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I created netman.desktop and placed it in /usr/share/applications as
> requested. I also git pushed the changes.
>
> Aitor wrote:
> Creating a 'netman.desktop' file in '/etc/xdg/autostart' directory,
> netman will start automatically.
>
> Should I provide autostarting for netman as instructed just above by
> Aitor? The netman.desktop launcher should also contain the --auto-conn
> parameter for netman to autoconnect.
>
> Edward
>
>
> On 13/12/2015, fsmithred <fsmithred@???> wrote:
> > On 12/12/2015 04:58 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they
> >> are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little
> >> contribution to the project.
> >>
> >> Edward
> >> _______________________________________________
> >
> > Edward,
> >
> > It may not be perfect, but it works. I got your latest sources and made
> my
> > own deb package. It installed and it runs. I did make a few minor
> changes:
> >
> > Had to create an orig.tar.gz - debuild would not let me continue without
> > it, even though I said to continue when it asked.
> >
> > Created netman.desktop and added a line to netman-gui.install to put the
> > file in /usr/share/applications. See sample .desktop file below.
> >
> > Changed netman.ico to netman.png and added a line to netman-gui.install
> to
> > put the file in /usr/share/pixmaps. I changed it to png, because the .ico
> > file wasn't showing up when I wanted to edit a launcher.
> >
> > When I built the package, there were some warnings about things like
> > uninitialized variables, unused variables, etc. If you want to see the
> > debuild output, I could send it to you.
> >
> > It did build without any errors, the deb packages installed normally, it
> > runs, it auto-connects if I set it so in xfce startup applications.
> >
> > I think that's all. Nice work!
> >
> > -fsr
> >
> >
> > Sample netman.desktop:
> >
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Categories=Application;Network;
> > Exec=netman
> > GenericName=Netman
> > Icon=netman
> > Name=Netman Network Manager
> > Comment=Start netman without system tray icon
> > Terminal=false
> > Type=Application
> > Categories=Network;
> >
> >
> > netman-gui.install:
> >
> > netman /usr/bin/
> > netman.png /usr/share/pixmaps
> > netman.desktop /usr/share/applications
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dng mailing list
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> >
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>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:30:45 +0100
> From: Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???>
> To: fsmithred <fsmithred@???>
> Cc: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.
> Message-ID:
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> kP4YvXr+dw@???>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> fsmithred wrote:
> When I built the package, there were some warnings about things like
> uninitialized variables, unused variables, etc. If you want to see the
> debuild output, I could send it to you.
>
> Hi fsmithred,
>
> In Lazarus/Delphi Pascal it is normal that the Sender variable is not
> used in every event handler. I can edit the frontend code to avoid the
> unused variables warnings though. I hope will do so as soon as I can.
>
> For those interested as to why Sender is normally not used, the reason
> is, Sender is the object instance that initiates an event. This means,
> if I click a TButton, the generated OnClick event, has its Sender
> parameter pointing to the TButton object instance. Sender comes in
> handy when the same procedure (in C/C++ function), is used with more
> than one widget in which case a programmer may change visual
> attributes of the sender widget to indicate an event was sent and
> handled.
>
> Edward
>
> Edward
>
> On 13/12/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
> > fsmithred wrote:
> >
> > Sample netman.desktop:
> >
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Categories=Application;Network;
> > Exec=netman
> > GenericName=Netman
> > Icon=netman
> > Name=Netman Network Manager
> > Comment=Start netman without system tray icon
> > Terminal=false
> > Type=Application
> > Categories=Network;
> >
> >
> > netman-gui.install:
> >
> > netman /usr/bin/
> > netman.png /usr/share/pixmaps
> > netman.desktop /usr/share/applications
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I created netman.desktop and placed it in /usr/share/applications as
> > requested. I also git pushed the changes.
> >
> > Aitor wrote:
> > Creating a 'netman.desktop' file in '/etc/xdg/autostart' directory,
> > netman will start automatically.
> >
> > Should I provide autostarting for netman as instructed just above by
> > Aitor? The netman.desktop launcher should also contain the --auto-conn
> > parameter for netman to autoconnect.
> >
> > Edward
> >
> >
> > On 13/12/2015, fsmithred <fsmithred@???> wrote:
> >> On 12/12/2015 04:58 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they
> >>> are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little
> >>> contribution to the project.
> >>>
> >>> Edward
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Edward,
> >>
> >> It may not be perfect, but it works. I got your latest sources and made
> >> my
> >> own deb package. It installed and it runs. I did make a few minor
> >> changes:
> >>
> >> Had to create an orig.tar.gz - debuild would not let me continue without
> >> it, even though I said to continue when it asked.
> >>
> >> Created netman.desktop and added a line to netman-gui.install to put the
> >> file in /usr/share/applications. See sample .desktop file below.
> >>
> >> Changed netman.ico to netman.png and added a line to netman-gui.install
> >> to
> >> put the file in /usr/share/pixmaps. I changed it to png, because the
> .ico
> >> file wasn't showing up when I wanted to edit a launcher.
> >>
> >> When I built the package, there were some warnings about things like
> >> uninitialized variables, unused variables, etc. If you want to see the
> >> debuild output, I could send it to you.
> >>
> >> It did build without any errors, the deb packages installed normally, it
> >> runs, it auto-connects if I set it so in xfce startup applications.
> >>
> >> I think that's all. Nice work!
> >>
> >> -fsr
> >>
> >>
> >> Sample netman.desktop:
> >>
> >> [Desktop Entry]
> >> Categories=Application;Network;
> >> Exec=netman
> >> GenericName=Netman
> >> Icon=netman
> >> Name=Netman Network Manager
> >> Comment=Start netman without system tray icon
> >> Terminal=false
> >> Type=Application
> >> Categories=Network;
> >>
> >>
> >> netman-gui.install:
> >>
> >> netman /usr/bin/
> >> netman.png /usr/share/pixmaps
> >> netman.desktop /usr/share/applications
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:03:36 +0100
> From: aitor_czr <aitor_czr@???>
> To: Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???>
> Cc: dng <dng@???>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] netman building using dpkg-buildpackage
> Message-ID: <566DF948.9080705@???>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> On 12/13/2015 10:48 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Hi Aitor,
> >
> > Can I copy the netman.desktop you provided for the version of netman
> > you debianized onhttp://gnuinos.org/netman/? You mentioned this repo
> > in an email you sent on 11 November 2015. Can I also use part of the
> > post installation shell script you provided in that same version of
> > netman?
> >
> > Edward
>
> Yes, you can.
>
> It's the same version hosted in Gitlab.
>
> Aitor.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:22:31 +0100
> From: aitor_czr <aitor_czr@???>
> To: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" <renaud@???>, dng
> <dng@???>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Pointer error in the backend of Netman
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> Hi Ron,
>
> On 12/13/2015 10:48 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
> <renaud@???> wrote:
> >>> *p = 5
> >>> > >
> >>> > >is undefined behaviour.
> >> >
> >> >Not in the good old days. Anyone remember DOS' infamous B800 address?
> >> >
> >> >But of course in 2015, my response is offtopic.
> > Abend 0C7 (or 0CB) anyone ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ron.
> > -- Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but
> > that's not why we do it. -- Richard Feynman --
> > http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
>
> I preceded *p = 5 with "//" because it is not the right way, this is
> the intuitive idea.
>
> Maybe, i am not a good teacher...
>
> Not so good as Richard Feynman and Lev D. Landau
>
> Vintage
>
> Aitor.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:33:37 +0000 (UTC)
> From: dan pridgeon <d_pridge@???>
> To: Steve Litt <slitt@???>, "dng@???"
> <dng@???>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded
> version of netman.
> Message-ID:
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> Its unfortunate that one cannot highlight the portion that one wishes to
> respond to, right click on the selected portion, and click "Respond" and
> have the editor do the rest of the work.
> From: Steve Litt <slitt@???>
> To: dng@???
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version
> of netman.
>
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:28:06 +0100
> Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > On gmail threads text is automatically quoted: I have no option about
> > that, other than selectively quoting parts.
>
> Selectively quoting parts is precisely what should be done by every
> poster, whether they're on gmail, mutt, or systemdmail.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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