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Autor: 4ernov
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Para: Steve Litt, dng
Assunto: Re: [DNG] Systemd-free network-manager package
Thanks for this opinion.

I see you point here, but personally I'm a little bit on both sides here.

On the one hand, I really like to have a system where my personal
preferences are considered and preserved. It looks suboptimal, but I
built LFS for me for it on my main system. It works flawlessly for
almost 8 years already and taught me a lot. It's also the system I use
most of all.

But I also have some other devices as netbook, rpi-like board etc. and
unfortunately I have no time to keep them work with another custom
systems of my choice. I'd like to have good enough and fast to install
(and update) distribution, but without faults like systemd. I don't
think it's the only big problem here, but that's something beyond good
and evil for me.

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:08:52 -0500
Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
> I'm going to answer this question as an individual, which, while not
> responsive to your question about the Devuan project, might be of
> interest.
>
> To the extent convenient, I avoid dbus entanglements. This is why I
> *never* use Network-Manager. This is also one of several reasons I
> prefer the wonderful Openbox window manager to the equally wonderful
> LXDE wm, at least on my daily driver desktop.
>
> But I would *never* expect my distro to supply me a dbus-less computer:
> dbus has already been integrated into too much stuff to back out. I can
> easily run dbusless. Until I run any kind of GUI program, then that all
> goes out the window. Gotta love that Freedesktop.org.