When I am faced with a situation where people try to emotionally
manipulate and distabilise others, one ugly question comes to my mind:
'As a species, have human beings really reached civility or are they
still living with a different form of the rule of the jungle?'

Edward

On 13/11/2015, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@???> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/12/15 1:54 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:57:19 +0300
>> Mitt Green <mitt_green@???> wrote:
>>
>>> ‎I wonder how many people that use Debian for quite long time (since
>>> 90s or the beginning of this millennium) really like systemd, GNOME3
>>> and all these controversial things. I haven't met any. And even more,
>>> most "greybeards" that I've seen oppose it. Seems like they don't have
>>> a right to vote.
>> :s/greybeards/experienced people having a clue/
>>
>> I'm not saying the following in anger. I'm simply saying it so we don't
>> accidentally shoot ourselves in the foot...
>>
>> "Greybeards" and "neckbeards" are characterizations whose connotation
>> is deliberately "people stuck in their ways, afraid of change, no
>> longer relevant, no longer innovating." This has *especially* come to
>> the forefront during the systemd foolishness.
>>
>> Additionally, "greybeards" and "neckbeards" pretty much literally mean
>> "old people", and give credence to the belief that old people can't
>> code, can't tech, should be put out to pasture. It's this very belief
>> that motivates organizations to refuse to hire those over 50,
>> regardless of past or current accomplishments, going so far as to pay a
>> premium to offshore rent-a-programmers rather than snagging one of the
>> glut of skilled over 50 technologists.
>>
>>
> Hey... I resemble that remark. I'm a greybeard and proud of it. In my
> neck of the woods (networking) it's a mark of distinction, and a
> credential that's jealously guarded. (I'm also 61, and just remember,
> 60 is the new 40. Never had a problem getting hired - as I say,
> greybeard is a respected credential.)
>
> Miles Fidelman
>
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> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
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