On 151102-13:00-0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:57:23 +0800
> Robert Storey <robert.storey@???> wrote:
>
> > > From: Nuno Magalhães <nunomagalhaes@???>
> > >
> > > Unfortunately it only allows you to search by package, leaving you
> > > with a lot of non-linux and inactive distros - and no ranking.
> > > But it's a nice feature.
> >
> > Yes, but biggest problem is that it misses some good non-systemd
> > distros like Gentoo and Manjaro-OpenRC because those do include the
> > systemd packages but it's use is optional.
>
> Big difference between the preceding two. As far as I know, Gentoo has
> shown no reluctance to *eventually* switching to systemd.

It is very unlikely that Gentoo would switch to systemd. Study for
yourself the huge forum threads, such as:

Why is Gentoo not switching to systemd?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-998108.html
(
pls. notice here the poll:
I <3 systemd!! I want Gentoo to switch!!  12% [ 26 ]
Get that horse-crap away from Gentoo as far as possible!  87% [ 186 ]
)

Why is Gentoo not switching to systemd? Part 2
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1003784.html

The Politics of systemd
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-983808.html

The Politics of systemd Part 2
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1031982.html

> By its very
> existence, Manjaro-OpenRC has. Here are the distros I've heard of that
> have taken an absolute stand not to *ever* default to systemd:
>
> * Devuan
> * Funtoo
> * Void Linux
> * And by context, Manjaro-OpenRC
>

So add Gentoo in the list above.

Believe me, a non-systemd Gentoo is I could almost say from my
experiencs, almost very close to perfection (I however use a kind of
minimalist install: I hate and never intend to use in any way in my
system the *dbus*[**], the great partner to systemd in poetterizing FOSS
Linux).

That presented in defence of Gentoo, you never know.

Such as: My most favorite, my most admired program in FOSS, the program
that I believe fixes the hooks for the one-ring cravers in the FOSS
Linux kernel introduced since the LSM, and which program, actually a set
of patches to the kernel, I dreamed of some day teaching newbies how to
deploy in their Devuan (as I have with success taught newbies in Devuan,
bafore the disgusting systemd took over Debian, has gone incompleteware:

the grsecurity

Read who is interested, since I do remeber, from some of my previous few
participations in the discussion here, that there are some devs[*] in
Devuan, who deploy grsecurity and know the huge benefits of grsecurity:

Intel Subsidiary's Violations Made Grsec withdraw Stable?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1031476.html

Regards!

[*] I'm just a somewhat advanced user only, so I won't participate much
in the discussion here.

[**] and I remember Jude C. Nelson wrote that *vdev* will not depend on
dbus, great to know!

--
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr