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Auteur: Edward Bartolo
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Aan: fsmithred
CC: dng
Onderwerp: Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme
Hi All,

In the case of more than one wifi and/or more than one ethernet
connector, netman will either use decide by itself to use a device
from the available list or choose a device from the defaults set by
the user.

I think, netman should not support more than one active connection as
is currently the case.

Please give feedback so that I start to work on the backend.

Edward

On 05/10/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I removed the icon and used text instead.
>
> It is important to note that normal users who have only one wifi card
> and one ethernet connector do not absolutely need to use that option,
> as it doesn't make sense to talk about default devices where there is
> no choice other than the one device provided. Such an option will
> certainly be only used by users having uncommon systems, implying they
> should be able to handle the situation. Providing automatic filling of
> device names complicates the GUI unnecessarily. Please keep in mind,
> the more automation we include, the heavier the processing burden,
> which is something we want to avoid. In fact, I removed some code
> which updated the active device name every five seconds. If a user
> wants to know which network device is UP, he/she can always click the
> Connected/Disconnected button.
>
> In case where there are multiple devices of the same kind, users can
> also opt to manually edit a text file under
> ~/.config/netman/netman.default.devices. The syntax is:
> wlanX=wldevice
> ethX=ethdevice
>
> Edward
>
> On 05/10/2015, fsmithred <fsmithred@???> wrote:
>> I can't tell from the pictures exactly what the flow is from one window
>> to
>> another, but if it works out such that you can select the interface from
>> a
>> list and have it auto-fill the interface name in the window that asks for
>> it, then you'll have one-up on wicd, which makes you type the interface
>> name.
>>
>> It would be bad if the user has to remember something like
>> wlx78e7d1ea46da
>> and type it into the next window. (Or even have to remember to
>> copy/paste). If the auto-fill isn't possible, then I'd suggest having
>> both
>> windows open so the user can look at it while they're typing.
>>
>> For reference, in wicd, you can manually enter the default interface in
>> the gui or in a config file. Putting it into either one will
>> automatically
>> add it to the other.
>>
>> RE: "gnome foot' icon:
>> I thought the same thing, until I saw it enlarged. I think it's really a
>> wolverine or maybe a wolf.
>>
>> -fsr
>>
>>
>> On 10/04/2015 10:41 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> These are more screenshots of the evolution of the frontend.
>>>
>>> http://postimg.org/image/enimq62sh
>>> http://postimg.org/image/y6n7zj1k1
>>> http://postimg.org/image/4g03drgkh
>>>
>>> Edward
>>>
>>> On 04/10/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> The new device naming scheme will be supported. Regarding listing
>>>> 'lo', I was told to filter it off the list of devices. At the moment I
>>>> am concentrating on the frontend before I start to code support for
>>>> enp**** and wl****. The reason is to have a clear view of what I
>>>> should code in the backend.
>>>>
>>>> Edward
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/10/2015, David Hare <davidahare@???> wrote:
>>>>> Some observations, testing netman.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a (devuan-based) installation running eudev. The (usb) wireless
>>>>> device shows as wlan0 and netman works fine. As this machine is a
>>>>> fixed
>>>>> tower it doesn't normally need netman gui so my autostart calls this,
>>>>> and it works:
>>>>>
>>>>> xterm -title "Connecting to network..." -e
>>>>> "/usr/lib/netman/bin/backend
>>>>> 10"
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to do similar before user login, maybe with an
>>>>> initscript.
>>>>>
>>>>> WICD and its ******* dbus reliance is now sacked for this machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also live-images with eudev, unfortunately they can't use
>>>>> netman
>>>>> so far because:
>>>>>
>>>>> root@exefce:/home/user# iwconfig
>>>>> lo        no wireless extensions.

>>>>>
>>>>> enp5s4    no wireless extensions.

>>>>>
>>>>> enp2s0    no wireless extensions.

>>>>>
>>>>> wlp0s29f7u3  IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:off/any
>>>>>            Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=0 dBm
>>>>>            Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>>>>>            Encryption key:off
>>>>>            Power Management:on

>>>>>
>>>>> Those interfaces (except "lo") do show in netman's main window.
>>>>> However:
>>>>>
>>>>> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>>>>>
>>>>> ERROR: power_scan(): "/sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up" did not exit
>>>>> successfully
>>>>> (status=255).
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this can be fixed soon. I built from latest git with
>>>>> dpkg-buildpackage, using the debian.tar.xz available with the netman
>>>>> deb
>>>>> package. BTW the build-deps list don't include build-essential, which
>>>>> was necessary although everything else was straightforward. I was a
>>>>> bit
>>>>> disturbed that they were around 900MB to install.
>>>>>
>>>>> (minor irritation) the "gnome foot" icon!
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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