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Lähettäjä: Edward Bartolo
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Vastaanottaja: fsmithred
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Aihe: Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme
fsmithred wrote: "It looks nice. Upload it, and I'll try it."

Before actually implementing the backend to handle wlanX and ethX and
the new network device naming scheme, I had to plan how the GUI should
look and work. This means, netman is still unable to handle devices
other than wlan0 and eth0. The backend will have to be modified to
enable it to handle such devices, and that takes time to do properly.

I learnt it is more efficient for me to let a day or so pass, as that
enables me to think of better algorithms, and effectively, I end up
coding more efficiently as faster. It is how my mind works: if I give
it time, ideas come with far less effort.

Edward


On 02/10/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
> Tilt wrote: " Does the button "New" take the user to a scan for
> available WiFi networks?"
>
> The button New displays a dialog box which has that functionality, but
> on demand by clicking a button. This avoid users having to wait for
> scanning for wifi signals when they know to which wifi source they
> want to connect.
>
> Tilt wrote: " I see there is a button "Delete" - does it enable the
> user to delete the file /etc/network/interfaces?"
>
> No, till now, /etc/network/interfaces is prevented from being deleted
> and I don't plan to enable such a deletion as that would effectively
> break netman. However, if support for other wired connections is
> implemented, it would mean eth1, eth2, eth3, ..., ethN would have
> their interfaces files deletable.
>
> fsmithred wrote: " It won't disconnect my static connection, but if I
> disconnect manually, then netman will connect and disconnect
> correctly."
>
> That is a feature that I will probably remove when netman is capable
> of ethX and WlanX, X in {1, 2, 3, ...}
>
> Edward
>
> On 01/10/2015, fsmithred <fsmithred@???> wrote:
>> It looks nice. Upload it, and I'll try it.
>>
>> BTW, if I start netman in chroot, it does open, and the icon appears in
>> the system tray of the host system. I just didn't think to look there
>> when
>> I tried it before. The gui comes up if I tell it to, and connection
>> information window works. It won't disconnect my static connection, but
>> if
>> I disconnect manually, then netman will connect and disconnect correctly.
>>
>> fsr
>>
>>
>> On 10/01/2015 01:16 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>>> Hi fsmithred,
>>>
>>> Please, take a look at this screenshot of the GUI modifications to
>>> support network interfaces other than wlan0 and eth0.
>>>
>>> http://s28.postimg.org/9bn1t4wz1/2015_10_01_180401_1600x900_scrot.png
>>>
>>>
>>> Edward
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
>>>> or better wlan and eth are enough instead of long words.
>>>>
>>>> On 01/10/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
>>>>> This is a screenshot of the changes in the main window GUI to allow
>>>>> for network interfaces other than wlan0 and eth0. The displayed
>>>>> strings wlan0 and eth0 will be changed into wireless and ethernet
>>>>> respectively.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://s28.postimg.org/9bn1t4wz1/2015_10_01_180401_1600x900_scrot.png
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Edward
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/10/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tilman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The backend will connect as I described.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it will be an operation of the backend, but not new: connect and
>>>>>> disconnect will work the 'new' way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This operation will be triggered by passing the network device name
>>>>>> string to backend in addition to the usual parameters. To avoid
>>>>>> malicious users from passing crafted strings to popen or execl, the
>>>>>> same encoding algorithm that is used for essid encoding will be used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/10/2015, tilt! <tilt@???> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Edward,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i assume you want the backend to do this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will this be a new operation of the backend?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If yes, what will trigger this operation?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Tilman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 01.10.2015 um 08:41 schrieb Edward Bartolo:
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the bewitched command that I need to do the above in a
>>>>>>>> split
>>>>>>>> second with the least of coding:
>>>>>>>> sed 's/wlan0/new_device/g' /etc/network/wifi/interfaces_file >
>>>>>>>> /run/netman/tmp_int_file
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> new_device is the replacement network device and tmp_int_file is
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> new interfaces file that uses new_device
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To connect the backend would then use:
>>>>>>>> ifup -i /run/netman/tmp_int_file new_device
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 01/10/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I devised a simple algorithm that can survive any new device
>>>>>>>>> naming
>>>>>>>>> scheme: systemd & co can think of any naming convention they dream
>>>>>>>>> of,
>>>>>>>>> the new algorithm will survive that. It also allows me to use the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> configuration files as they are without modification. wlan0 and
>>>>>>>>> eth0
>>>>>>>>> will be simply placeholders for network device names. This means,
>>>>>>>>> coding can be greatly simplified.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The algorithm:
>>>>>>>>> i) copy the essid/eth0 interfaces file to a temporary file system
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> /run/netman. During the copy procedure, replace wlan0/eth0 with
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> respective network device name.
>>>>>>>>> ii) run the connect/disconnect function using the newly created
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> in the temporary file system and using the new network device name
>>>>>>>>> iii) delete the newly created file in the temporary file system
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Simply, easy and extremely flexible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tilt and fsmithred, you will soon be able to connect to whatever
>>>>>>>>> device you like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 01/10/2015, Hendrik Boom <hendrik@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 09:09:52PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My next coding task is to implement support for other network
>>>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>>>> besides eth0 and wlan0.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since supporting other network devices essentially is including
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> new device names in the essid interfaces file, I am thinking of
>>>>>>>>>>> whether it is possible to hook the system file reader function
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> replace part of the read file so that I wouldn't need to change
>>>>>>>>>>> anything in the files themselves. The reason is it shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>>>> which wifi or wired connection one uses to connect a network.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They may operate at different speeds.
>>>>>>>>>> They may connect to different networks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- hendrik
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