Hi All,

Now netman, the GUI uses a systray icon. Right clicking shows a popup
menu and left clicking displays the netman main window.

Since there are window manager users and I don't use a window manager,
I would like to know whether using a systray icon will negatively
impact users of window managers. In other words, is it possible to
display a systray icon in a window manager? If not I will need to do
something about that.

Please give me feedback.

Edward


On 26/09/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
> If you know the essids and the corresponding password you can reenter
> these by clicking the New button and filling the essid and password.
> You can also switch between obfuscating the password chars and seeing
> exactly what you type.
>
> netman uses an algorithm where it gives first priority to the best
> wifi signal available provided a corresponding essid file exists. So,
> if you are away from say wifiX, netman will not attempt to use it
> unless you force to do so.
>
> Edward
>
> On 26/09/2015, Hendrik Boom <hendrik@???> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 01:25:09PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>>> This is a screen shot with the Edit dialog shown.
>>> http://postimg.org/image/9obv7fnlp/
>>
>>
>> Your aerial view walpaper is lovely. It's on the verge of giving me
>> vertigo.
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are technical reasons to switch from wicd to
>> netman. As far as I know, wicd is systemd-free. Is there any reason to
>> suspect it's going to be otherwise?
>>
>> There is a nontechnical reason, of course, which is supporting our own
>> developers.
>>
>> The main issue is I have with switching is that if I have trouble with
>> it, whether it's my fault or not, I'll lose the convenient network
>> access I use to ask for help.
>>
>> I'm currently using wicd, and there's one user-oriented feature it seems
>> to lack. When I'm at a site where they provide wifi, it detects it,
>> then allows me to enter the local wifi password.
>>
>> But when I'm away from it, there seems to be no way to tell it about the
>> now-remote site.
>>
>> Now the occasions on which I want to use it are vanishingly small. But
>> is has once happened that I'm initialising a new device, and it would be
>> massively convenient not to have to visit every wifi spot I plan to use
>> merely to transfer the passwords from the old device to the new.
>>
>> Can netman do this?
>>
>> I also like a mode in which I can see the password I'm entering. I'm
>> not a great typist, and I'd like to know whether I have the wrong
>> password or merely entered it wrong. When my wife broke her wrist,
>> correct password typing became an unsurmountable obstacle for her.
>> Seeing the password is a security risk, but it's also an invaluable
>> accessibility feature.
>>
>> All in all, considering where you started from, you've done an
>> amazing job. I haven't read the code or tried it, but the UI looks
>> straightforward and to the point. You have probably learned a lot, too.
>> Keep up the good work.
>>
>> -- hendrik
>>
>>>
>>> On 26/09/2015, Edward Bartolo <edbarx@???> wrote:
>>> > Hi All,
>>> >
>>> > I was asked for the current netman's frontend GUI screenshot. Here it
>>> > is:
>>> > http://s13.postimg.org/lirdshy07/2015_09_26_124924_1600x900_scrot.png
>>> >
>>> > I liked it for its simplicity... but I will have to adapt to what
>>> > potential users want.
>>> >
>>> > Edward
>>> >
>>> > On 26/09/2015, info at smallinnovations.nl <info@???>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Edward,
>>> >>
>>> >> Although i will stay with wicd i am glad that with netman i do have a
>>> >> choice.
>>> >> And most important of all you actually did something whereas others
>>> >> still are sitting on their hands.
>>> >> So if someone friendly point out some improvements make us of it.
>>> >> And if some dick is just criticizing without any real suggestion for
>>> >> improvement just ignore him.
>>> >>
>>> >> Just my 0,02
>>> >>
>>> >>> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 08:04:15 +0200
>>> >>> From: Edward Bartolo<edbarx@???>
>>> >>> To: dng<dng@???>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Dear All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As many probably remember, when I asked to be allowed to create a
>>> >>> network manager, I made it clear that I have NO FORMAL TRAINING IN
>>> >>> PROGRAMMING. What I know, has been learnt by buying expensive books
>>> >>> from specialised booksellers and studying on my own.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Now regarding the bad marks I am getting (2/10?) for writing a
>>> >>> project
>>> >>> that has been working since its inception.... although I have been
>>> >>> using it for a month now without issues. Furthermore, I don't want
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> use shell scripts or any interpreters: those who want to use them
>>> >>> can
>>> >>> easily, or I dare say not so easily, as coding requires commitment,
>>> >>> especially, if it is done for free as in my case, opt to code a
>>> >>> network manager in THEIR TIME.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Intellectual myopia or better, the urge to troll and discourage me
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> continue with this project, is preventing those who criticise it
>>> >>> negatively, not to see the ultimate aim of the project, which is to
>>> >>> avoid using ifup, ifdown and any interfaces files. However, DEVUAN
>>> >>> was
>>> >>> in an urgent need of a network manager, and I offered my help, and
>>> >>> indeed, humbly presented a NOT SO PROFESSIONAL APPLICATION that
>>> >>> works.
>>> >>> Yes, it is not shiny, and it does not create a systray icon from
>>> >>> where
>>> >>> it can be invoked, but it works and it is stable.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >From the remarks I am getting, apart from some genuine Devuan DDs,
>>> >>> I
>>> >>> think, I have got a FAIL in this project, which is to be evaluated
>>> >>> against the context of a coder who has had NO FORMAL TRAINING IN
>>> >>> PROGRAMMING.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please, also note, being arrogant and disrespectful, does not
>>> >>> persuade
>>> >>> anyone to do what such an attacker wants. You have your time and a
>>> >>> brain, use them to create your own network manager according to what
>>> >>> you deem best.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I dedicated hours upon hours of my free time, often resulting in a
>>> >>> headache to complete the project within reasonable time. However, I
>>> >>> go
>>> >>> a beating and a severe bashing instead of being guided to do better
>>> >>> the next time.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Edward
>>> >>
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