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also this > http://littlesis.org/

Haven't signed up but they look more likely to provide graph files and
datasets.

On 25 September 2015 at 02:05, Pablo <pablovidal85@???> wrote:

> That would be a great project to crowdsource, a wiki-graph for political
> and corporate power.
>
> 2015-09-24 3:14 GMT+02:00 odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???>:
>
>>
>> Hey Pablo,
>>
>> Given how tech for SNA (social network analysis) has progressed over a
>> short number of years, it seems to me it would be relatively easy to
>> crowdsource such a project (including solicit data from the crowd so
>> that people would be able to submit information through a website
>> about actors who influence global politics and have that populate a
>> graph which would evolve in real time for general SNA purposes).
>> Thus anyone could submit information to the graph, but there would be
>> editors for the project so that if the data submitted is ludicrous it
>> would be able to be modified.
>>
>> Just my two bits
>>
>> Pablo:
>> > I enjoyed http://www.theyrule.net/ in the past, but it's quite old
>> > already and it's a corporate (not political) power graph only for
>> > the largest american companies. I would love if something like this
>> > was done for global political and corporate power.
>> >
>> > 2015-09-22 8:57 GMT+02:00 odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???>:
>> >
>> > See https://twitter.com/orgnet - orgnet.com - and the software,
>> > InFlow. (I picked up a copy of it some years back and got
>> > training from its author, Valdis Krebs... needless to say,
>> > interesting stuff)
>> >
>> > -O
>> >
>> > futureleadersofdesign@???:
>> >>>> http://www.thebrain.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Jonathan Valiente
>> >>>>> <tinkeringengr@???> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Is there enough data in the public domain to create an
>> >>>>> association graph of all the actors who influence global
>> >>>>> politics? Or are we forever rate limited by whistle-blowers
>> >>>>> from the inside?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 'global western interests' Seems like such a fuzzy entity.
>> >>>>> As if we are just waiting at its mercy for its next play.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I desire a graph (nodes and edges) so I can see
>> >>>>> associations before they happen. For instance, if I looked
>> >>>>> at the dick cheney node I could see his corporate and
>> >>>>> political associations along with some well devised metrics
>> >>>>> of how he politicizes. That way I could see beforehand his
>> >>>>> associations with halliburton and make meaningful
>> >>>>> predictions such as the conflict of interest with invading
>> >>>>> Iraq. I could also see all other actors who are associated
>> >>>>> with the halliburton keyword.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You could start small with a core subset and then
>> >>>>> continually curate the graph like a wiki. It would be nice
>> >>>>> to have some sophisticated intelligence, something
>> >>>>> concrete.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm sure the CIA is already doing something like this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Amir Taaki
>> >>>>>> <genjix@???> wrote: Continuing from our last
>> >>>>>> emails about Corbyn and global western interests, and the
>> >>>>>> mythology of liberalist ideas.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Here is an interview with Assange where he talks about
>> >>>>>> the cables about US plans to destabilise Syria in 2006
>> >>>>>> through sectarianism and allowing terrorism, and about
>> >>>>>> Corbyn's anti-NATO anti-military stance.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3HWiydFlJc
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mainly to paraphrase that Corbyn challenging the
>> >>>>>> military establishment will make some big enemies to
>> >>>>>> oppose him, and if does show signs of success then it
>> >>>>>> could even put him in personal danger.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If this all sounds rather crazy or conspiratorial to you,
>> >>>>>> then welcome to the new world of the internet where truth
>> >>>>>> is being rendered visible.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> New article, titled:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> British Army 'could stage mutiny under Corbyn', says
>> >>>>>> senior serving general
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/british-army-could-
>> sta
>> >
>> >>>>>>
>> ge-mutiny-under-corbyn-says-senior-serving-general-10509742.html
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> > Orwell wrote a book on the use of English language in politics, and
>> > here
>> >>>>>> we see how they have renamed coup d'etat to the less
>> >>>>>> sinister "mutiny" which gives the impression of a
>> >>>>>> legitimate rebellion from below, not a power grab by the
>> >>>>>> army.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Reminds me of another news article on areas under IS
>> >>>>>> control saying how business are being "extorted" to fund
>> >>>>>> IS activity i.e they are being taxed.
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