On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 01:30:59AM +0200, Riccardo Boninsegna wrote:
> Il 18/ago/2015 12:53 AM, "Gregory Nowak" <greg@???> ha scritto:
> > As I described in another thread earlier, I tried doing an aptitude
> > search sysv on a fresh install of debian jessie, and got back no
> > results. Either I was doing something wrong, or it sounds like
> > sysvinit-core is back in sid, which is good. Maybe debian does plan to
> > give people a choice after all?
>
> I've never seen sysvinit-core dropped from Jessie or Squatch (I can't
> remember the name of Testing), but systemd (if not systemd-sysv) is
> currently an offer you can't refuse for almost any "mass-market" GUI
> software, and then some more in Debian...

I do stand corrected. Yes, I guess I was doing something wrong. I
installed debian jessie again in a vm to test this and some other
stuff. Yes, sysvinit-core is there as you described, and can be
installed. Doing so gives me a /etc/inittab again, and I can use that
to prevent agetty from running on consoles 2-6 in multiuser run
levels, which is something systemd as pid1 didn't let me do as I
mentioned in another thread. As you also point out though, this isn't
a choice, and systemd is still very much an intrusive part of the
installed system. It also seems not to like being replaced as
pid1. After installing sysvinit-core on my test vm, I get something
like this after I login on consoles 1-6:

[ 321.691816] systemd-logind[2190]: Failed to start user service:
Unknown unit: user@???

I literally muttered "oh shut-up" under my breath when I saw that.

Greg


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