https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB8_wPei2ZM
a nice little clip that reminds me of this discussion
On 17 September 2015 at 10:01, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Jonathan Valiente wrote:
>
> > the naive tendency of men to ask "who started the war" - as if it
> > would matter for anyone to find a solution for peace...
> >
> > Yes, all values and ideas should be challenged critically and often
> > throughout life. Any invalidity should be discarded, within reason
> > of accepting ones ignorance.
>
> right. everything flows. so then the only universal left is...
> metaphisical - and unless one is into religion, there isn't much left
> but mathematics. even laws change, ethics and common beliefs. For
> instance a 100 years ago it would have been *unthinkable* to have
> official marriage among people of the same gender. To the contrary! such
> people were persecuted (injustice...)
>
> I'm curious about what you call "optimal universal", but I don't intend
> to bother you with insisting questions. Just a curiosity, since that
> "optimal" somehow resonates like pragmatical to me.
>