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It is easy to fall into an ideology wherein the ideas have you instead
of you having the ideas. When theres a rulebook, it makes everything
straightforward. But it ain't that simple!

You want the global left to go in favor of another alignment, or do you
mean to eliminate all alignment dogmas?

Ill say that yes, for me as well its generally limiting to myself to say
im of such and such alignment so that should tell you everything about
me before you even know me.

I see the same scenario with anarchism that I see with the debate
between free software and open source, amirite?


Amir Taaki:
> Really Jaromil is right on some levels. First our 'movement' has
> stagnated to a large extent and failed to capture the imagination of the
> youth today. It's also had a revival of sorts in terms of ideas, but the
> old guard has failed to catch onto this and so the experience has failed
> to filter through or take advantage of the new situation.
> So now we must revise our symbols, beliefs, dogmas and strategies.
> Mainly I want this crap about the left to go. I feel nothing of the
> global left, and feel no connection to stalinists. I feel more
> connection with social entrepreneurs than with 'communist comrades'.
> Unless this movement evolves out its microcosm echo-chamber, it will be
> left behind:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/3hfu75/this_sub_is_too_biased_and_does_not_fully/
> by new threads that are emerging and encompassing its values. It might
> have already happened anyway.
> Yet somehow socialism and the left has become cool in our minds. Just
> like black bloc parades that demonstrate with 100 people and smash a
> window. Wow, how radical. Most people don't see you as radical or
> dangerous, they see you as soap dodgers that need to get a job and know
> you are incapable of change. They are radical in their minds only.
> So what's going to happen now to improve the world.
>
> Now I'm personally approaching a juncture where several very important
> questions are being posed to me, that's forcing a strong revision of my
> ideas to confront problems. Real life is complex.
>
> The main ideas I'm grappling with are about democracy and corruption.
> And we must learn by studying sociology literature and history, not by
> scientific analysis (dialectics).
>
> Jaromil:
>>
>> sorry Caleb I didn't meant to be offensive I also have a lot of respect
>> for you. Amir put it down much better than me: there is no Truth, mine
>> is mostly a knee-jerk reaction to the whole lot of propaganda going on
>> in the world on straw-man issues.
>>
>> for instance take the bitcoin aftermath: looks like now we are all busy
>> on the next blockchain-tech working for banks to be able to secure their
>> transactions. I'm not sure you have an idea on how much Barclays, HSBC,
>> Paribas and these big corporations are putting into it right now. And so
>> we watch all our good intentions fagocitated by decadent pigs in suites
>> while even ISIS produces more bitcoin donations than freedom activists.
>> few people look into the real issues at stake, let alone journalists,
>> very little effort even by self proclamed activists, just gardening the
>> "vote-for-me"s, we have stars all over to save the world by double
>> clicking on each other face while singlehandedly cashing in on the
>> claims of grassroot political movements.
>>
>> again, mine is just a reaction. to reach some sense one must apply a lot
>> of filters for sure.... and perhaps a good advice is eyes peeled, be
>> active and be the change you want to see in the world. And also feets on
>> ground, be there, not just listen to voices. Europe and US are not the
>> problem, they are even part of the solution, but we need to stop this
>> hyper-mediated deca-dance of marketeers and talk about real issues. most
>> young people are being brainwashed about making a business plan and a
>> startup even before they actually have any experience of the world and a
>> picture of anything that is really useful for society. plenty of wasted
>> bits, wasted minds for the industrialized production of brain waste.
>> People who are 20yr today better go realize their dreams and follow
>> their instinct learn thinking outside the box rather than sit down to be
>> domesticated by business plans and cultural-industries. These are the
>> people busy calling the red-scare on anything that doesn't fit the
>> decadent script of capitalism.
>>
>> I'm sure most people here is looking for something else and some people
>> may know better where to point them at, for sure not me now, while I'm
>> letting some steam out, hope you'll pardon the noise.
>>
>> ciao
>>
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