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Thanks Amir for the link and clarification, reading it with Adam Curtis's
voice in my head made the whole thing feel more understandable...

But still I feel there is nothing I can cast judgement on. The whole 20th
century was one of symbols - which people attached different meanings to
and then fought eachother over.

An element of ethics which is strictly technical such as:
"Those with political power should be stripped of their privacy rights"
I can fairly pass judgement on.

But "Rojava is good", "Rojava is bad"; I refuse to take position. We've
spent about long enough killing eachother over abstract symbols so I
think we really need a solid protocol specification on this government.


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It seems that my gut-reaction-analysis is not far different from zerohedge's
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-03/turkey-arrests-journalists-sets-terrorist-tip-line-currency-plunges-violence-escalat
Except I didn't know they are planning elections for November 1st.



On 04/09/15 08:54, Amir Taaki wrote:
> That's not true. They are definitely not Stalinists.
> They are following the ideas of Murray Bookchin.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/5a7b18b5-0ec3-3d3e-a307-54820a7c6a59
>
> At least for now the revolution in Rojava is following these ideas but
> they are under a lot of pressure from many outside forces.
>
> Caleb James DeLisle:
>> It would appear that I don't actually know much what I'm talking about.
>> I was just informed that the PKK is not really part of the Anarchist
>> revolution in Rojava - they're more like stalinists.
>>
>> Another reason why I prefer peaceful solutions, the costs of a mistake
>> are less dire.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/09/15 17:01, Diego Saa wrote:
>> A good start would be encrypting by default, like Kraken, the bitcoin
>> exchange, which encrypts every e-mail they send to their users.
>>
>> Just to help making encryption a habit, this list should have all the
>> member's public keys, and we should make it a rule that every message
>> sent
>> is encrypted. There wouldn't be much point as far as security, but
>> it'd be
>> good to help turning encryption into something that people normally do.
>>
>> We should try at least to make it a habit to pgp sign messages, which
>> I'll
>> do starting with this e-mail.
>>
>> Let's see... how do you do that... Ok, here it is:
>> https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x135.html
>>
>> Diego
>>>
>>> 2015-09-02 7:44 GMT-05:00 psy <epsylon@???>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/15 14:36, psy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, they can use SSL or GPG keys, with lenght more than 4096bits, as
>>>>> "legal" weapon to jail activists.
>>>>
>>>> https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006052711747
>>>>
>>>>> This is serious worldwide problem and we should re-act.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encryption_ban_proposal_in_the_United_Kingdom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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