On Sun, 8/23/15, Adam Borowski <kilobyte@???> wrote:

Subject: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already
To: dng@???
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015, 1:34 PM

> Today on #debconf:
>
> 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release
> 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default
> 20:11 < paultag> which they still do
>
> Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is pathethic. I provided a
> set of desystemdized de-libsystemd0-ed packaged half a year ago (deb-src
> http://angband.pl/debian nosystemd-{jessie,stretch}), and other than upower,
> it was a matter of a bunch of trivial changes to debian/{control,rules,...}.
>
> The time frame becomes bad... you don't want to be laughed at, do you?
>

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It's hard to read those quotes from #debconf properly without knowing the previous context. I was wondering if any Devuaneers crashed debconf. Was this a response to their presence? Or just to someone trolling the irc?

I agree that the inclusion of ANY systemd files at this point is a BIG target for comments like these. VUAs et al . . . time to clean house . . .

golinux