I just saw this "Ubuntu Snappy" news today...

And immediately I remembered about this thread...

"Build system smart / Packaging dumb"

http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-developing-it-wrong/

Do we talked about this:

www.ubuntu.com/snappy

https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/tutorials/build-snaps/

https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/packaging-format-apps/

Or, at least, something like this?

On 1 January 2015 at 22:31, Clarke Sideroad <clarke.sideroad@???>
wrote:

> On 01/01/15 15:37, t.j.duchene@??? wrote:
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> I just wanted to post this for consideration. I’m not looking to rehash
> old posts, but Devuan is at the moment finding its legs. I feel that
> this is a valid concern that may arise in Devuan’s future. I think it
> should be discussed openly.
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> http://threatpost.com/debian-announces-end-of-security-support-for-iceape/103203
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> Assuming that we follow upstream Debian “en masse”, do we have the
> resources to for vetting every upstream package that Debian provides or are
> we going to simply take them on faith and try to keep sync with Debian’s
> patches?
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> I’ve often advocated the idea that Devuan should focus on a “core” and
> leave the rest of Debian to interested parties willing to maintain it.
> Regardless of the outcome of that discussion, the update and security model
> should be visited at some point.
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> I see your point with the need to prioritize core items, in fact on a
> rather larger, more established scale that is what Debian is doing in this
> case.
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> I don't think Devuan should fork any more than has to be forked to remain
> systemd free for now or into the immediate (Stretch/sid) future.
> If at some point that requires support or replacement of software
> abandoned by Debian, that is what it will take.
>
> Most of us were happy to accept the wisdom of Debian or work around it as
> benefactors/users for a number of years, to me Devuan is pretty much an
> ultimate extension of that now that something is poettentially rotting the
> heart of the Debian distro.
>
> I guess what I'm trying to say is things get worked around and that is
> what I feel is happening at the heart of Devuan development even if this
> mailing list reflects a larger more abstract vision.
>
> Maybe in the future Devuan will eat Debian or the other way around, who
> knows.
>
> Talking of work arounds, if I was faced with a single soul who needed
> IceApe on a machine, I would give them the still updated SeaMonkey, stuffed
> in their userspace.
>
> One thing is for sure, this is all being well documented so future
> generations can look upon these happenings and see a ground breaking rift
> created to maintain the flexibility of the GNU/Linux operating system. I'm
> thinking that, rather than the parallel of a bunch of old Netscape
> Navigator users worrying about their rebadged, handy, meta-package.
> History is live streamed these days, so time will tell.
>
> Don't take the above analysis too seriously and stick in smiley's (-: as
> may seem appropriate.
>
> --
> Clarke
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