Le 16/08/2015 06:27, Steve Litt a écrit :
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 14:26:41 +1200
> Daniel Reurich<daniel@???> wrote:
>
>> >On 16 August 2015 7:47:46 AM GMT+12:00, "T.J. Duchene"
>> ><t.j.duchene@???> wrote:
>>> > >All that I ever try to say that I think there should be room for
>>> > >both sorts to make Devuan a home. Yes, I think Devuan should have
>>> > >systemd as an option, but only as an option - never part of the base
>>> > >system.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>> >No no no!!!!!
>> >
>> >If you Devuan with systemd.... install Debian.
> I agree. Daniel, I don't know why it's so hard for some people to
> understand. We're all for freedom of choice, but catering to this
> mythical Devuan user who wants systemd reduces*our* choices by making
> it much harder to (I've been told not to use the neologism), ummm,
> decontaminate Devuan.

     This has been discussed so many times already! It sitll has to be 
proven that offering systemd is possible without abandoning freedom of 
choice for many other things.

     Why should we bother when there's a simple way for Devuan to 
provide Systemd:
         http-redirect -> www.debian.org

     This is not about shims, though. I don't want to participate in the 
shims thread proper.

     Nice day folks :-)
                                                     Didier