On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 03:33:31PM +0200, Anto wrote:
> On 15/08/15 14:39, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >What is the purpose of:
> >
> >Package: init
> >Pin: origin ""
> >Pin-Priority: -1
>
> As far as I understood, the init package was developed to allow smoother
> transition of Debian default init from sysvinit to systemd. As sysvinit was
> an essential package in Debian before, there was no way to switch the
> default init to systemd so they invented init package. Some people argue
> that the init package was necessary to allow switching from one init system
> to the other ones. But I don't really buy that because there was no problem
> in switching init systems before systemd started to emerge. It is quite
> clear to me that it is there because of systemd.
> So I really hate the idea
> of keeping that in Devuan. That is why I don't want to use init,

Switching init systems worked, infesting already installed systems did not.
The package though is harmless, and it's cleaner than wheezy's essential
sysvinit package forcing itself on non-sysv systems.

> init-system-helpers

Now this, despite its description lying through the teeth about "being
useful for all init systems, I swear" is purely 100% systemd crap. But a
load of daemons depend on it in order to work on systemd systems. The
helpers are benign with a sane init, and do nothing but wasting a few kb of
space. Certainly not something worth the effort to work around the
dependencies.

> sysvinit-core

Uhm... that _is_ sysvinit now. 100% unrelated to systemd.

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(https://github.com/kilobyte/braillefont for this hack)