Le 15/08/2015 02:26, Steve Litt a écrit :
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:49:17 -0700
> Go Linux <golinux@???> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 8/14/15, T.J. Duchene <t.j.duchene@???> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims
>> To: dng@???
>> Date: Friday, August 14, 2015, 2:47 PM
>>
>>> I know not everyone here agrees with me, especially Steve, and
>>> that's perfectly okay. I have no problem with that at all. I just
>>> don't see "System 5 pure" as realistic when planning ahead looking
>>> at a maintenance standpoint when Debuan upstream is more and more
>>> likely to stick with Systemd in designing their packaging.
>>>
>> Maybe we should just put Steve in charge of decontaminating all
>> packages with systemd deps!
> Oh, you wouldn't want to do that. Contrary to what I wrote in another
> thread about "the perfect is the enemy of the good", if *I* were in
> charge of decontamination, I'd throw out whole subsystems. Gnome gone.
> KDE gone. Xfce gone. Networkmanager gone. Gimp gone if it gets all
> systemd on us.
>
> In the massive time I save as not being the bomb squad defusing Red
> Hat's terrorism, I'd write small replacements for a lot of things that
> use only Linux and a very rudimentary and optional GUI interface.
>
> Then I'd write documentation explaining how to use a sharp thinking
> computer, to the proud ignorants of the world, especially those who
> believe their ignorance is a badge of honor proving their age or
> gender.
>
> And the people who prioritize pretty over functional and robust: I'd
> tell them to get a Mac.
>
> You don't want me in that capacity.
>
> And yes, I *am* a hypocrit who takes one position in one thread, and
> then says he'd do the opposite in another. :-)
>
> SteveT
>
>

     Please, Steve, provide us with all you mentionned, as an 
alternative to mainstream bloated/infected stuff. Since Devuan is all 
about freedom, this is the place where to deliver to the world. As soon 
as I can install Devuan on metal, I'll be one of your testers.

     Didier