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Autor: aitor_czr
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Para: dng
Assunto: Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36
Are you talking about a minimal installation of Devuan (Standard or
Server..., or whatever you want to call) containing a postinstallation
script (style of Crunchbang) which acts like tasksel? It requires
network connection !
Wicd-daemon? Network-manager depends on systemd.

Aitor.

El 11/08/15 a las 19:36, dng-request@??? escribió:
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:52:08 -0700
> From: Go Linux<golinux@???>
> To:dng@???, Steve Litt<slitt@???>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Packaging (was  Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in
>     packages,    possibly Mission Creep)
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> On Tue, 8/11/15, Steve Litt<slitt@???> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Packaging (was Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, possibly Mission Creep)
> To:dng@???
> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2015, 11:27 AM
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 07:02:28 -0700
> Go Linux<golinux@???> wrote:
>
>> >On Mon, 8/10/15, Steve Litt<slitt@???> wrote:
> [snip]
>
>>> > >* base install
>>> > >* apt-get install xorg
>>> > >* apt-get install xterm (if not installed by xorg)
>>> > >* apt-get install Xfce (or whatever)
>>> > >* apt-get install lightdm
> [snip]
>
>> >Several years ago, I actually built up xfce (without the meta
>> >package) from a base install. Then I found refracta which simplified
>> >my life as it was very close to what I wanted. fsmithred has
>> >promised to build a devuan iso for the likes of me. But he's not
>> >been seen around here in some time and the refracta forums haven't
>> >had much traffic lately . . . maybe because it's summer. Once the
>> >beta appears I'm hoping he'll spin into action. Doing this all from
>> >scratch would be a bit of a challenge for me . . . the years are
>> >beginning to take a toll . . .
> Hi golinux,
>
> I've known you for what, a year now? My impression is you're smart and
> skilled enough to find it almost trivial to install base, then xorg,
> then xterm, then a window manager, then lightdm. I've seen you do a
> lot more challenging stuff than that, including making very inciteful
> contributions to discussions on infrastructure. My impression of
> you is that if you put your mind to it, you could install Arch or
> Gentoo, and those really do take some concentration and resolution of
> ambiguities. But anyway...
>
> I'll admit I've met people who couldn't follow a five step apt-get
> sequence, but you're about a million miles from that.
>
> Well, anyway, you were speaking for those guys who can't follow a 5
> step recipe, and that's legitimate.*If* it's decided that the base
> install should be minimal, it would be pretty easy to make a
> shellscript to do all X installation in one command. If the base
> install included nCurses and Dialog, it could even be a no-argument
> script that queried for everything:
>
> * Do you want a Graphical User Interface (GUI) (Y/n)
>
> * Do you want to boot straight to Graphics mode? (y/N)
>
> * If booting straight to Graphics mode, require password? (Y/n)
>
> * Which window mgr? (Xfce/LXDE/Openbox/Whatever/Other)
>
> * If Other, please enter the WM name here >    <

>
> * Thank you. Press Enter to perform this work, press Ctrl+C to abort:
>
>
> Of course, the prompts would need to be*much* more tailored to the
> uninitiated user, who for instance, doesn't know what a Graphical User
> Interface, a window manager are, or why he would or wouldn't want a
> password.
>
> The benefit of doing it this way is it's being performed on an already
> installed system that's almost guaranteed to boot just fine.
>
> SteveT