"T.J. Duchene" <t.j.duchene@???> writes:
> On Monday, August 10, 2015 08:15:20 AM Rainer Weikusat wrote:

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>> Debian claims to support "43,000 packages" of easily installable
>> software. This confuses some people into believing the only possible
>> way to build a usuable system based on Debian but with making some
>> different policy descisions MUST be to start with creating 43,000
>> forked packages which all have to be modified manually.
>
> I am entirely uncertain of what you are talking about. In fact, I think that
> Devuan should support a functional subset simply to reduce workload.

That's based on the exact same premature assumption. But most of these
"43,000 packages" will be of little interest to anyone but the people
who packaged them and it will be possible to use them with at most
trivial changes (such as dropping 'political' dependencies). Further,
there's no point even looking into this unless someone wants to use a
certain package. This would then make said someone the natural candidate
for performing whatever modifications (if any) might be necessary.

>> But this is almost certainly not the case as even a thorougly evil
>> Debian team would simply lack the manpower to make '43,000 packages'
>> depend on systemd in a way that wouldn't be easily
>> removable.
>
> Evil? What? I have no idea what you are talking about. Debian's only
> interest is doing what they think is best for their own distribution.

I didn't write anything about "Debian's interest" and regarding Debian
as homogeneous organization sharing a tight set of political goals is
stretching things more than a bit. But that's a tangential question:
Even if it was and if that political goal was "further spreading systemd
at any cost with all means at our disposal" (I simplified to 'evil', ie,
'dedicated antagonist with conflicting/ opposing goals', not a that
uncommon use, by the way), this could only be accomplished by a
relatively long and cumbersome process.